I agree with the roids assessment!

what an assenine post! how can you even compare Bonds to Ortiz...in Pittsburgh Bonds was a skinny little guy who would steal 30+ bases every year. Ortiz was always a big dude, even in Minnesotta. you're just showing your ignorance and bias when you bring up steroids.

and why did "the sox walk away scot free in the mitchell report"? is there some big conspiracy going on to protect the sox and blame the steroids era on the yanks? give me a break! and no, I am not a sox fan...just a baseball fan who's tired of every player who's performance drops a bit being touted as a roids user.

Knowone thinks that he nailed everyone. Mitchell said himself that he only names a small percentage of the cheaters.

Man, you are one ignorant individual, you know that?  First, Big Papi didn't get the playing time in Minnesota that he's gotten there in Boston...second, the lineup that he's been playin in with Boston is much better than the one he was playing for at the time with the Twins...steroids?  Dude, David Ortiz has knee issues because of an injury he sustained running/playing the field and from past surgery, NOT from steriods.  I suggest you get a clue and learn a thing or two instead of just making assumptions and saying that everyone is on "the juice", because not all ball players are/were...I'm in no way a Boston fan, but I do know a few things about the game.

I really don't think he's that much bigger, but I guess I'd have to review some old pictures when he was with MN.  I know he hasn't grown significantly since he's been in Boston.  The funny thing about him is...and this will bring a lot of laughs I'm sure...he's really not that fat.  He's one of those guys who look a lot bigger than he is. 

But, he's just too soft looking to be a juicer, I think.  I wonder more about the guys that are just super-ripped.  If I ever wondered about any Red Sox player using the juice, it would be Gabe Kapler.  I know he was supposed to be this super clean work out freak, but the guy had .001% body fat.  It's guys like that I wonder more about than guys like Papi.

The person who started this silly post is a Yankee fan.

The Yankees disgusting payroll and .500 winning percentage is the laughing stock of profesional sports, and is comparably waistful as to the 485 billion dollars this country has poured into the Iraq war.

No more to explain - just take it as bitterness.

yankees have a disgusting payroll

hypocrytes the red sox payroll's almost as disgusting

Hypocrytes you say?

2008 Opening Day Payrolls

Yanks #1 payroll in the 209mil range. (up over 10mill from last year)

Next closest team(Tigers) are 70mil less.

Sox #4 are about 76mil less then the Yanks. (down about 10mill from last year)

www.sportsline.com/mlb/salaries

That 76mil difference is about or more then 14 of the MLB teams total payroll. More then the last 2 combined.(DRays/43mil and Marlins/21mil)

Hmmmm forgot to add the quote in.....ooops

Anyway, Ortiz is big and has always been a big guy. Big guys put more wear and tear doing the same things as a lighter guy would. Ortiz rumbling down to first puts alot of strain on his joints. Ortiz has averaged 1 home run for every 10.4-20.6 at bats for the last 7 years(20.6 was his last year in Minn with a 16.83 the year before).

Going with A-Rod, he has averaged 1 home run for every 10.8-16.7 at bats the last 7 years. Wooopeeefriggindooo

No way Papi is on the juice.  He just doesn't have that look...he's big but not super ripped like a Giambi type.  He's always been a big guy, and in fact, looks skinnier to me than he was a few years ago.

And as far as one-dimentional goes...who cares?  He's a slugger, he's there to bash the ball out of the park as many times as possible.  I guess Mariano Rivera is a one dimentional player because all he does is save games?  I don't get that point at all.

But hey, we do agree on something...MANNY RULES.