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Trojan,
I posted this on another thread just a second ago and thought it was appropriate for here as well.
By the way, I have been fortunate enough to have played that hole on 3 occasions now. The first time I played with my dad and brother from the up tees. It's only about 115-120 yards from there and a completely different angle. Much much easier and less stressful by the way. The pin was on the bottom front shelf. I put my tee shot on the top shelf (in regulation) and had one of those Tiger putts coming back down. I proceeded to bogey the hole with 3 putts.
The second time I played from the back tees. It was a charity event and it was windy. The tee was about 135 and the pin was in a similar position. I took one extra club (because the wind was blowing but the pin was in front) and I put my first ball in the drink short right...and bought a mulligan (as was a legal maneuver in this event:) Second ball I clubbed up again and this time I put my ball in the drink again short right of the green. You were allowed to buy three mulligans for the round so I used up another one. Finally I hit the green with a 3rd club up. The wind really rips through that hole like there is a wind tunnel. It's not easy when it's windy by any means. Pros who go for the middle of the green should be able to hit it 9 of 10 times but sometimes they get greedy.
The third time I went was the same charity event. I teed up from the back again and this time I knew to club up for the wind. I actually took three clubs up and swung a bit easier to keep the ball down in the wind...which always seems to be blowing. PW is my 135 yardage...so I hit an easy 7 iron. I was on in one...and finally had my first regulation par on 17.
Yah! It's a great course and a great hole!!! Fun for all...I highly recommend it. I have also been there on a couple of occasions to watch the tourney. 17 is crowded as you might expect but not just because of 17 but because you can watch the action into and on the 16 green as well which is the par 5. Depending on your vantage point you might even be able to watch the tee shots at 18. It's kind of like Amen Corner at Augusta.
The course is much different than Augusta though. Most if not all of the fairways are lined with one of three things. Mossy trees, water, or fairway bunkers. Some of them are lined with two of the three. And when I say lined I mean it. The fairway bunkers are long (many are more than a hundred yards...most more than 50 yards long). The fairways aren't near as forgiving in width but the greens are still pretty undulating. It's a fantastic course and experience.
The new clubhouse is a spectacular improvement over the old.
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