Preseason Polls of '08-09 by Sportsline and ESPN

PG- Kalin Lucas, Travis Walton

SG- Chris Allen, Lucious(sp?),

SF- Raymar Morgan, Durrell Summers, Isaiah Dahlman,

PF- Delvon Roe, Marquis Gray, Draymond Green,

C- Suton, Herzog, Ibok

Come on, now. That doesn't look like a 22nd place preseason team to me. If I'm being honest, we should be in the top 10, possibly top 5. Drew Neitzel was good, but is not irreplacable. Our guards should be as good as they were last year, and we finally have a dominating post presence that we lacked last year with Roe. Watch out for dem Spartans next year.

I agree with everything you said.

All said, though, I would prefer the pre-season ranking to be low so if something happens we do not have to put up with the stench of "overrated" again.

Let State begin the season unranked for all I care. A Sweet 16 or better finish will be quite satisfactory. Better would be better.

Of course we all would be at least mildly pleased were State to go undefeated, right? But let us not get our hopes up into the unrealistic.

GO STATE!

the spartans will be good. no doubt. even if roe doesnt recover fully. gray is fully capable of dominating the post with suton. hes showed us that before. but i think kalin lucas will step up and be one of the best in the big 10. hes proven he can be a leader. but i cant wait til they start!

GO STATE!!!