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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 13, 2007
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- 2004-05 16-14 (9-9)
- 2005-06 15-13 (8-8)
- 2006-07 22-10 (10-6)
- 2007-08 8-7 (1-1)
Steve Cleveland came in after our 15-13 record in the 05-06 season. Last year made it look like we were going in a real good direction. After our first couple months of this year, though, I'm worried. Yes, it's early. However...
We've lost to CSU Bakersfield, Sam Houston State, and San Diego State. And then a lost to New Mexico State to top it off.
Also, in our 8 wins we've beaten Western Washington, Fresno Pacific (NAIA), Portland, Liberty, Montana state, Winston-Salem State, and Presbyterian. Oh, I can't forget those signature wins against Pacific and Louisiana Tech.
That's okay though. We have Steve Cleveland. He's the guy who's going to recruit players out of high school instead of jucos. And he's going to clean up our program. Hmm. We've already lost Rekalin Sims (a transfer) because he was dropped by the team after getting arrested. I'm disappointed in the development of Hector Hernandez and James Tchana. I was disappointed that Cleveland couldn't do anything to stop the crumbling of Ja'Vance Coleman.
Alright, I know it was tough luck to lose Dwight O'Neal to the broken wrist. And I know it hurt to lose Dominic McGwire. Again though, Cleveland chose to pick him up as a transfer from Cal. And when you pick up transfers, you're only going to get them for a year or two at the most.
I noticed that Cleveland picked up 4 freshman and a juco transfer during the winter signing period. That's definitely a good sign. But there is no way he lasts past next year if Fresno doesn't turn things around. That empty arena will be too much of a weight for Fresno to give him any more time than that.
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 18, 2007
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You put the hammer on the nail dennis. Cleveland gone if he cant win the WAc this year. Was born in Fresno,Follow Fresno St, but never saw a empty arena. Could this be true with the best fans in college sports.
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:74
Level:Pro
Since:Dec 26, 2007
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Due to some big losses in the WAC, I need to update my WAC standings.
1. Utah State - Good shooters and play very disciplined under Coach Morrill. They obviously replaced Nevada as the team to beat in the WAC. Key Player = Jaycee Carroll
2. New Mexico State - The team has turned things around and definitely are a powerhouse in the WAC. Key Player = Justin Hawkins & Fred Peete
3.Boise State - Tougher than what a lot of people thought (Especially Nevada) before the season. People underestimated their talent level. Key Player = Reggie Larry
4. Fresno State - A lot of talent on the court and starting to put together Cleveland's system. Key Player = Kevin Bell
T - 5. San Jose State - Made a major step up in the WAC by beating Nevada, plays a lot of close games. Key Player = Chris Oakes
T - 5. Nevada - Blocks only don't win you games. You need to actually score some points. This team has made a major step back in the WAC and Nationally. Key Players = It depends when they want to play.
7. Hawaii - Obviously, this is a rebuilding year or the first to many rebulding years to come. Key Player = Bobby Nash
8. Idaho - This team is turning the corner and gave NMSU and Nevada a hard time. Key Player = The whole team!
9. Louisiana Tech - The new coach is putting his peices together but it won't happen this year. Key Player = Kyle Gibson
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:74
Level:Pro
Since:Dec 26, 2007
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So who should win the following for WAC honors?
MVP
1. Jaycee Carroll - USU
2. Justin Hawkins - NMSU
3. Marcellus Kemp - NEV
4. Reggie Larry - BSU
BEST Defensive Player
1. JaVale McGee - NEV
2. Anthony Thomas - BSU
3. Jordan Brooks - UI
4. Reggie Larry - BSU
Freshman of the Year
1. Armon Johnson - NEV
2. Jahmar Young - NMSU
3. Justin Graham - SJSU
4. Tai Wesley - USU
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:67
Level:Pro
Since:Jan 19, 2008
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Well, Steve Cleveland is definitely cleaning up the image. I honestly got tired of seeing thugs running the ball up and down. At least give Cleveland a chance to field a decent senior squad out there. He is a quiet and reserved coach. He is looking for players that play the game the same way. Recruiting isn't easy and he may be finding that out with his first senior class that HE recruited. With all kidding aside, I believe he still has his job and a good showing in the WAC tourney and a outside NIT will be enough for me this year for Cleveland.
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 13, 2007
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He's cleaned up their image? If you mean the fact that they have NO image, then I guess I could agree with you. This team has no personality. They have no character. And that's translated into a very boring team to watch.
And I see where you're going concerning the difference between his players and the ones he inherrited. But he is in his 3rd year, and I don't see his fingerprint anywhere...at least in a positive way. I don't see the future getting any brighter either. I mean, next year we'll have Jordan Ambers, Nedeljko Golubovic, Myles Green, Dwight O'Neil, Sylvester Seay, James Tchana, and Brandon Webster returning. Golubovic is the only player from Cleveland that has shown any real potential.
So you can say what you want about waiting for Cleveland's first senior class to come up, but where is he going to get it from? If he wants to have any chance of succeeding soon, he's going to need JC transfers...which is what he said he wouldn't be doing.
Kevin Bell has been a monster. But he was here before Cleveland.
Eddie Miller was a great pick up. But he's still only a JC transfer that will be gone after only having played 2 seasons.
Bryan Harvey? Yeah, nice job with that one. Way to "clean up" our image.
Shawn Taylor? See above.
Dwight O'Neal? This guy had a tremendous last few weeks in the 05-06 year. It was stupid to redshirt him last year. Cleveland totally stunted his development.
How about Tyson Parker. Did you know this kid averaged 39% from 3pt range at Fresno City? Cleveland has him looking like a fumbling mess this year.
At their last game I saw Hector Hernandez score 2 points and commit 3 fouls. Cleveland has totally let his potential wash down the toilet. It's sad to watch Hernandez play like a shell of what he was last year.
I won't even start with Alex Blair and Brandon Webster. On a decent team, these two wouldn't see playing time until a game was already decided and you didn't want your valuable players to get hurt.
I know image is important. The mistake of past regimes were embarrassing. But Cleveland's job is still to field a competitive basketball team. And he isn't doing his job.
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:40
Level:Rookie
Since:Feb 22, 2008
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I agree the image of Fresno State basketball has cleaned up in the past couple of years since Cleveland arrived....but I see it this way...everyone is waiting for his first senior class, but no one is looking at this year...there is no leadership outside Kevin Bell, I saw the game against Utah State and nobody else but Bell played there hearts out.....I hear that Hernandez is in a shell..in a way he put himself there... he is not moving around or trying to get a shot off....he stays put and never really has a chance to play ball.....the team its self is playing scared they are not taking risk like last year....this team is struggling because they don't play together....you can see that by watching one game.....and i agree Cleveland will have his job for a long time he is not going anywhere...he can not however rely on four year starters, he needs to look at the J.C.'s in the area.....Fresno City, C.O.S. and Porterville College have great players that can play at the D. 1 level....That V on your jersey doesn;t stand for victory your the valleys team get the valley players....
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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What is Steve Cleveland accomplishing?
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Reputation:40
Level:Rookie
Since:Feb 22, 2008
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I agree the image of Fresno State basketball has cleaned up in the past couple of years since Cleveland arrived....but I see it this way...everyone is waiting for his first senior class, but no one is looking at this year...there is no leadership outside Kevin Bell, I saw the game against Utah State and nobody else but Bell played there hearts out.....I hear that Hernandez is in a shell..in a way he put himself there... he is not moving around or trying to get a shot off....he stays put and never really has a chance to play ball.....the team its self is playing scared they are not taking risk like last year....this team is struggling because they don't play together....you can see that by watching one game.....and i agree Cleveland will have his job for a long time he is not going anywhere...he can not however rely on four year starters, he needs to look at the J.C.'s in the area.....Fresno City, C.O.S. and Porterville College have great players that can play at the D. 1 level....That V on your jersey doesn't stand for victory your the valleys team get the valley players....
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