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IIPapa = Coward
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May 16, 2008 4:35 pm

Hold on, Sweety.


Obama for President
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May 16, 2008 5:09 pm
New Rule: Any post with copy/pasted Bill Maher crap will be ignored. His views are worth nothing and represent a very small percantage of people in this country(represented well on this board). He is a miserable human being trying to drag others into his hopeless, miserable world. I kind of feel sorry for the poor little toad. He's as relevant as Rosie O' Donnell. It must suck to wake up and hate the world every day. The next life isn't going to be any kinder to him.

Gee, lighten up there, carl. 

IIPapa = Coward
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May 16, 2008 5:13 pm
So a wife is not equal?  HUH?
So a third world country has no homeless people?  HUH?
What in the world are you even talking about? Are you insinuating that first lady is equal in power to the President?? You really don't want to go there.. I would not exactly hinge all my bets on Mrs. Obama if we are going to start electing the presidents based on their spouses. Once again it's a moot point as I was merely pointing out your 'lie' in saying it was the candidate.. if you had said it was Cindy the issue would have never come up. Still can't admit you lied hmm?

I dont believe he is / was or ever will be a convicted terrorist, so lets not call him a terrorist or a member of Al Queda since that is also in question.  Why are you lying?  I dont know maybe you are taking Al Queda's side over our military, our media and our government because some other reason.
So now you are even arguing against your own points. You are the one who named him as a terrorist to start with. I merely noted later his ties to Al-Qaeda which he explained in detail. Show me any place at all in this thread where I lied. You seem intelligent but your constant attempts to try and paint me as un-patriotic are far off base and have absolutely no validity. I have shown respect in that aspect for a fellow service member who served our country as well, it's a shame you can't do the same and respect someone's alternative views without questioning their patriotism.


No Sambo in office.
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May 16, 2008 5:16 pm

If David Duke was in the Klan at one time and was now working for John McCain your head would explode.

That whole church (Oprah, Wright, Obama, Farrakhan) is the new Klan.  At least in the eyes of many white people.


 

Why is Farrakhan keep being brought up?  Obama is not "buddies" with him.  Hit the "spam" button on those junk emails, brain, they're bad for you. 

You forgot to put the word "ignorant" in front of "white".  Yeah, Oprah, she's so radical.  What's it like to live in perpetual fear of black people? 


IIPapa = Coward
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May 16, 2008 5:18 pm
In a debate between Barack and Mack the Hack it will be painfully obvious Mack is Mindless.

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May 16, 2008 5:22 pm
It's completely pointless to get into anything on this. I'm trying make a point about Maher. There is NOOOO comparison to the other two by a longshot. If there was anything to get Rush or O'Reilly on, people would've brought it out, with all the haters there are. Maher appeals to a very small percent(fringe left). The other two are the kings of their respective industries, and speak for most of America. You can try to compare, but nobody's buying it.

carl, you can try to marginalize him all you want but I think you should check out the guests he gets on his show and just how many people watch.  Also, he's a comedian, ok?  

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May 16, 2008 5:35 pm
Here ya go, carl.  Here is some proof that Bill O is a lying POS and that the Fixed News will actually change a transcript to keep that a little secret.  "Fair and balanced"?  Yeah, sure.

UPDATE: Fox News corrected transcript of O'Reilly's false claim U.S. committed atrocities at Malmédy

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Summary: Keith Olbermann noted that Bill O'Reilly falsely accused -- for the second time -- U.S. troops of committing the massacre at Malmédy, Belgium, during World War II. On Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor two days earlier, O'Reilly had attempted to compare the incident at Malmédy to the alleged killings in Haditha, Iraq. O'Reilly stated: "In Malmédy, as you know, U.S. forces captured SS forces who had their hands in the air and they were unarmed and they shot them down." In fact, 84 American bodies were found at Malmédy murdered by SS troops.




On the June 1 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann noted that Fox News host Bill O'Reilly falsely accused American troops of committing the massacre at Malmédy, Belgium, during World War II. During a discussion with former NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark on the May 30 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly attempted to compare the incident at Malmédy to the alleged killing of 24 Iraqi civilians by U.S. soldiers in Haditha, Iraq. O'Reilly stated: "In Malmédy, as you know, U.S. forces captured SS forces who had their hands in the air and they were unarmed and they shot them down. You know that. That's on the record. Been documented." In fact, the result of the massacre was reversed -- 84 American bodies were found at Malmédy, murdered by SS troops. O'Reilly had made the mistake before, during an October 3, 2005, interview with Clark. Olbermann called attention to O'Reilly's falsehoods, saying, "the victims at Malmédy in December 1944 were Americans, Americans with their hands in the air, Americans who were unarmed."

Both Fox News and Nexis posted transcripts of O'Reilly's May 30 comments that read "Normandy," instead of "Malmédy." However, the video of O'Reilly's remarks, as well as the transcript provided by Factiva.com, confirm that O'Reilly indeed said "Malmédy," not "Normandy." (Olbermann said that the altered transcript had "carried over into" Factiva -- it is unclear whether Factiva has again readjusted its transcript or whether Olbermann was simply incorrect). But even the change did not make O'Reilly's statement accurate. There is in fact evidence of a massacre of British and Canadian soldiers at the hands of SS troops at Normandy; the invasion of Normandy was not an example of a U.S.-initiated massacre.

On the May 31 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly revised his claim in response to a viewer who noted that the Malmédy incident was "the other way around" from what O'Reilly suggested:

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O'REILLY: Don Caldwell, Fort Worth, Texas: "Bill, you mentioned that Malmédy as the site of an American massacre during World War II. It was the other way around, the SS shot down U.S. prisoners." In the heat of the debate with General Clark, my statement wasn't clear enough, Mr. Caldwell. After Malmédy, some were executed by American troops.

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O'Reilly did not elaborate on the revised claim. After airing O'Reilly's revised claim, Olbermann stated: "Wrong answer. When you are that wrong, when you are defending Nazi war criminals and pinning their crimes on Americans and you get caught doing so twice, you're supposed to say, 'I'm sorry, I was wrong,' and then you're supposed to shut up for a long time."

O'Reilly previously mischaracterized the massacre at Malmédy during the October 3, 2005, interview with Clark, in which Clark called for the release of photos of the prisoner abuse that occurred at Abu Ghraib. In an attempt to connect Malmédy with the Abu Ghraib scandal, O'Reilly suggested that Clark "need[s] to look at the Malmédy massacre in World War II and the 82nd Airborne," and asked, "You want those pictures out?" Media Matters for America noted a different discrepancy between what was actually said and to the Fox News transcript of that interview with Clark -- the transcript suggested that Clark had said that he did not want the release of the Abu Ghraib photos, when in fact he had said that he did want them released.

From the June 1 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:

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OLBERMANN: Abraham Lincoln did not shoot John Wilkes Booth. Titanic did not sink a North Atlantic iceberg. And Fox News is neither fair nor balanced. These are simple historical facts intelligible to all adults, most children, and some of your more discerning domesticated animals. But not, as the third story on the Countdown proves yet again, not to Bill O.

STEWIE GRIFFIN (character on TV show Family Guy) [video clip]: Countdown presents "Factor Fiction," wherein we catch that bastard Bill O'Reilly lying again. Oh, wait, Bill, hold still. Allow me to soil myself on you. Victory is mine!

OLBERMANN: The guilty pleasure offered by the existence of Bill O'Reilly is simple and understandable. Ninety-nine times out of 100, when we belly up to the Bill O bar of bluster, nearly every time we partake of the movable falafel feast, he serves us nothing but comedy: farce, slapstick, unconscious self-mutilation, the Sideshow Bob of commentators forever stepping on the same rake, forever muttering the same grunted, inarticulate surrender, forever resuming the circle that will take him back to the same rake. The Sisyphus of morons, if you will. But this is the 100th time out of 100. It is not funny at all. Bill O'Reilly has, for the second time in just under eight months, slandered at least 84 dead American servicemen. He has turned them again from victims of the kind of atrocity our country has always fought against into perpetrators of that kind of atrocity. He has made these Americans into war criminals. They are dead and have been dead for 61 years. They cannot defend themselves against O'Reilly. We will have to do it for them.

Last October, Bill O'Reilly railed against a ruling that more photos from the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq might be released. His guest on his program was Wesley Clark. Clark is a retired four-star general, was for four years supreme allied commander of NATO in Europe. First in his class at West Point, wounded in Vietnam, earned the Bronze Star, the Silver Star, and has streets named for him in Alabama and in Kosovo. Therefore, naturally, O'Reilly knows much more about the military than General Clark does. Clark defended the release of the additional Abu Ghraib prison -- photos, saying we needed to know what happened and to correct it. O'Reilly lectured him and concluded that there had always been atrocities even by Americans in war.

O'REILLY [video clip]: General, you need to look at the Malmédy Massacre in World War II in the 82nd Airborne.

OLBERMANN: It was a remarkable mistake. The Belgian town of Malmédy did lend its name to one of the most appalling battlefield war crimes of the 20th century. But O'Reilly's implication that the Americans committed it was entirely backwards. Americans, most of them members of Battery B of the 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion, surrendered to German Panzer troops and were then shot by their captors from the SS. Yet, O'Reilly had implied that the Americans had massacred these Germans in this one stark moment of the Battle of the Bulge. And he used this Alice-through-the-looking-glass view of history