Aint gonna be no sweep cindy

i agree cookie.......your point was well made.

Yes, Bettman is going to fix the game, right. Get your tinfoil hat back on, I think the Illuminati is trying to control your mind. If there was such a conspiracy, why the no goal call in game two that could have very easily been called a goal. Or the fact that the penalties in the series have been practically even, even though the Pens have definitely been keeping more offensive pressure with the exception of tonight's game. Flyer's played a good game, but calling Crosby soft for the thing at the end with Richards? Please, they hacked each other a few times and that was it, it's not like Richards dropped the gloves and Crosby backed away. And if you're going to talk about 'whining' to the refs (what every captain and alternate captain does, btw), Richards does it as much as Crosby.

Definitely a good call to sit Downie, he probably would have scored the tying goal for the Pens.

Hey Steel Curtain...you're a GREAT fan and a GREAT example of why I mock the Pens fans! Hahahahaha...you;re not a bandwagon fan, you're a TRUE fan! (*See his 1st post on this thread...)

His name is Staal, not "Stahl". Nice effort though.

All I have to say is good luck in Game 5...if you lose, you'll get 1 more shot in Game 7. Looks like we got our goalie back tonight...

"You mean like your fan base that ranks in the bottom half of the league."

I'd like to see where that stat came from. The Penguins sold out every single home game this year. Every single one. I'm still not sure how that puts the fan base in the bottom half of the league.

KEY WORDS:  "This year".

I was in Pittsburgh in spring of '04 - before the lockout.  Saw 3 games for a total of $30.  One of those tix was in the 2nd row also, gotta love scalpers.   I don't know much about the Philly/Pitts rivalry, but I don't ever think Philly's team was about to move on several occasions because of shameful attendance.  Even when they were 30 out of 30 last year.  Were they? 

Just was in Pitt last week too...  seeing all theese kids with their light blue Pens gear is pretty comical.  How many of them saw a game when they sucked in 2003-04 and were days away from moving to KC?  I'll guess 1% or so...   Most Pens supporters are the  definition of "fair-weather" fans.

The Pens had one crappy year of attendance after 4 years of cellar dwelling, that's not exactly a qualifying factor for a team moving. The Pens were in danger of that even with good attendance because of playing in an outdated arena, which was also the cause of teams in Winnipeg, Quebec and Minneapolis moving away, mostly to places with non-traditional markets with only one developing a really strong fan base, Colorado. Unfortunately, teams don't tend to survive without stadiums having luxury boxes and the corporate money that goes along with it. If it were just attendance that was a problem, then Phoenix would move back to Winnipeg (or Hamilton), Florida would pack up along with Chicago, etc.

yeah Jlaw - the Stadium is pretty important, but i think winning is more so.  Part of the reason Colorado established that "strong fan base" of theirs is the fact that they won the Cup in their first year there, and again a few yrs later.  They could play in a dump, and those people would go see them - because they win.  When they had a crappy team in the early 80's they didn't support them - only when their team won after the gift from the NHL in 1995.  Colorado is a joke as far as hockey goes...

A new stadium only goes so far when it comes to maintaining a healthy franchise - just ask the 400 people in PNC park on Monday about that. 

Winning cures more ills than a new Stadium - I say.

SVCFenn...

POWER CENTER ?  You are AWESOME! A Power Center, When did that become a position? OR even a reference to a position?  Maybe you should stick to your books more. We wouldn't want you to fall behind on your studies because of the NHL Playoffs.

AND...Please tell me you DID NOT Brag about your HIGH SCHOOL Hockey Team being state champs? OMG, who gives a horses ass about your High School?

And while stating how edumecated you are..and also how you "mirror your game" Damm Dude if you respect the guy that much? SPELL HIS FREAKIN NAME RIGHT!

I am not a grammer freak on message boards, but when y