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Since:Mar 29, 2007

May 12, 2008 10:40 pm

First off, our starting rotation is amazing. Cliff Lee continues to be the best pitcher in the majors this year. Fausto earlier was stunning. Our defense finally looked great and made huge plays for Lee.

But the offense is horrible.

Hafner is a joke. His slump has gotten to him mentally and he shows no confidence. A DH with no confidence is useless.

Call me crazy....but I think the Indians need to look into getting Kenny Lofton back. He can play LF, you can put him at leadoff and put Grady down to the 3 hole and push Victor to the 4. We got Jason Tyner in LF today.....

Also, I know this won't happen, but I'd love to see Barry Bonds get signed. A guy with a OBP over .500 is good enough for me, I dont' care what baggage he has, our offense is that bad!

But still, we're what... .5 games out of first? Not bad when we haven't played our best lately.


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May 12, 2008 10:55 pm

yeah totally agree with you we currently have the best pitcher in the game... but are darn offense keeps sputtering and has trouble getting started in a game... we beat the Jays 12-0 one game with an all around great game.. and now we cant get firing on all cylinders man... hafner needs to wake and relixe its already mid may

goo tribe


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May 12, 2008 11:08 pm
The Tribe has an incredibly inconsistent offense, and yes it is getting old.  The starting pitching is pitching better than any rotation in the league.  How is it that a team can have a starter go 9 shut-out innings and lose?  Moving people to different spots in the order is not helping and something needs to be done.  This lineup's potential seems to get worse by the game.  As fans, we remember when each of these guys have had a hot streak over the last couple of seasons and hope it comes back, but almost everyone is hitting in the low .200's.  I hope they somehow pull together because someone has to help this awesome starting pitching.  This is pitching that can go through the playoffs, but you need some type of run support to win games.  Go Tribe!

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May 12, 2008 11:13 pm
bigdog, I agree with you on Lofton, I said it weeks ago, only problem is that Lofton at this point does not want to come back, hes looking for a contract of at least $6 million, the same as last year, and he wants to play everyday...i think we should get him and let him have a shot in lf over dellucci, but not for 6 mil, Bonds would greatly help our team, but his price is too high and he is a cancer, nobody wants him cuz of his steroid use...hafner is a disgrace, im really starting to worry that we will never see the great hafner again, back two years ago he was the best hitter in the A.L., now hes a weak hitting dh, a dh!!!! whos only effing job is to hit...IMO its all mental, Hafner came from a small Kansas hs with like 60 ppl total and then he went to a small community college...i think its the pressure thats got to him and hes been unable to handle it, i still think hes a good hitter, but its like hes going through an Ankiel-type period (Ankiel couldnt throw strikes-all mental)...whatever it is, he sucks, and hes hurting our offense...in addition, Marte is a joke, flat out, he hasnt gotten much of a chnace but neither has Francisco, difference is that Ben has produced when given the chance...we have lights out SP, weak hitting, and a pathetics bullpen, yaaaaayyyyy, changes are definitely needed

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May 12, 2008 11:23 pm

Slump? Hafner hasn't hit since last May. After one year, it can't be called a slump. Either he has a mental problem, a phycial problem, or he stinks. He's says it's not his shoulder so I think he stinks.  What's the point in having a DH who bats .215? He's has 3 HRs so far and he's got a pitcher's BA. Awesome. If you have to play the $8M designated "hitter" then at least bat him 9th, like a NL pitcher.

Lofton? Come on, let the guy go, he's not the answer. I'd rather struggle through the growing pains of Guitierrez and Francisco, then rent him for another year. Plus, Lofton is bad luck, he's been on so many good teams and can't win the big one. I think he was on the Steve Bartman Cubs team. Lofton is a jinx and doesn't have a strong arm.  I guess he's learned not to swing for the fences every at bat anymore, though....

One question: Is Barfield still on the team or did they give up on him already? I'm not sure they should let him go just yet. Brandon Phillips comes to mind.


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May 12, 2008 11:27 pm
Btw, Hafner is from Jamestown, North Dakota, not Kansas.  That's why the Minn fans love him. He's gets applause everytime he bats in the metrodome.

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May 12, 2008 11:37 pm
and no one is saying Lofton's the answer, but our mgr has played the likes of Jason Michaels in lf, Lofton provides hits, he gets on base and walks, he alwasy hits around .300 and we need baserunners, Grady is hittin around .270 and is too good a hitter to have leadoff, he hit over 20 homers last year he needs to hit 3...i say get lofton and platoon him with delucci/francisco in left, hell move them around at dh too, get that bum hafner outta there...if we could get lofton for the right price id do it, but not at $6 mil and not now, around the trading deadline or later if hes still unsigned, we need to give our young guys a shot, cept marte, hes a POS

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May 12, 2008 11:39 pm
matt2323, hafner went to hs and college in kansas, who cares where he was born

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May 12, 2008 11:39 pm