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I know for some this is a last resort option, but it must happen. Ohlendhorf will not be a starter again. Marquez is unready. Rasner won't make the year. Kennedy has bad contol. Igawa..well we've seen enough. Horne is hurt. Bentaces, McClutchen, Heredia, Kontos are all unreadty. Steven White is our next best option.
This is danger mode unless we sign Bommer or trade for Oswalt, Millwood, Padilla, Blanton, or Harden. What is everybody's idea for the SP. Respond with your opinion
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Chase Wright is another option.
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Chase Wright? You sure he still doesn't have whiplash from last year at fenway?? What is wrong with Alan Horne? I would say maybe a trade,if Rasner can put 2 more starts together it may make him appealing throw in kennedy or another young guy like Tabatta or Gardner but not both. Problem is,if Joba go's to the rotation,we lose hi, totally for a month while he prep's in the minors,something we can't afford to do!!
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Joba will be in the rotation at some point this year, but not right away. I don't think that the Yankees are as much in danger mode as you say. They are one game under .500, and if the offense was actually producing in the first month, they'd probably be a little better off. The thing is, we are overly concerned about our number 5 pitcher. Well I guess 4 & 5, until Hughes gets back, but the Yankees will be fine. If they can just get a few good starts out of Darrell Rasner, they can bring back Ian Kennedy after his next minor league start, and they'll be alright.
So far, so good with Wang, Pettite, and Moose. Let's just be patient. Hopefully Kennedy will have a new found confidence, and Rasner will help carry the load.
All that has and is wrong, and the Yankees have only lost 4 more games, then the Redsox. They'll be just fine once things come together.
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Chase Wright is defintely an option as others have mentioned. The Yankees cannot give up on a left handed starter after only a hanful of starts. I would rather do that than spend money on 45 year old David Wells. If we can get a Kevin Willwood for cheap then it is certainly worth it. He eats innings up every year and will keep us in games. Also, as others have mentioned we have only lost 4 more games than the BoSox and it is early yet. We need to wait for Alex and Jorge to come back too. If Joba goes to the pen, who will pitch the eight inning and bridge to Rivera? Plus, he will need to build up stamina in Triple AAA. I just hope Hank doesnt make us push the panic button now and do something stupid.
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I would not trust farnsworth, hawkins, bruney or anyone but joba in the 8th inning of a close game in September.
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At some point we will have to move some of the pitchers in Scranton,while they have value. White,Marquez,Horne,Wright and even Kennedy,not all of these guy's will make it to NYC!! And we have built up an OF in the minors now as well with Tabatta,Gardner and jackson,combined with melky,someone will need to go! Anyone have an opinion on Jeter getting a bigger free pass than usual this year?? His fielding,mainly throwing is worse than I can ever remember. I like that Alberto Gonzalez kid we had up,I think he derserves to be up more than Ensberg or Betimit!!! Do you think he is the Jeter replacement??
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I agree Chase Wright is not a good option. I was just throwing his name out there. Horne is on DL.
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To suggest Joba become a starter is ridiculous. Him and Mo are the backbone of our team. Look at the Mets, look how many problems that team is having because their set-up men can't hold a lead or keep them in games. Heilman has blown games or made them play extra innings too much, and everyone else hasn't been good enough to replace Heilman in the eighth inning (which really says something) You need a solid eighth inning guy as much as you need a great closer. If you look at the successful teams from the last couple of seasons, you'll see they had successful set-up men. Okajima, Zumaya, Cotts, are from the last 3 AL champs.
You also have thrown out Oswalt a couple of times. You're an idiot. The Astros just signed him a season or so ago to a long-term contract extension. They also just gave up their minors for Tejada, and gave Valverde a lot of money. Why would they do all of this, and then trade their best pitcher? They want to win now, and Oswalt is the only pitcher worth having on that team, so stop throwing his name out as an option.
And finally, we aren't in danger mode. We are in the best shape than we have been in the last couple of seasons at this point in the season. Last year we were over 10 games behind the AL wild card in July or August. It's the beginning of May and we're only 4.5 games away from the Red Sox, and 3 games away from the Angels who would be the Wild card right now, please get a hold of yourself. The Mets were seven games ahead of the Phillies with only 17 games left last season, again please get a hold of yourself.
Please stop posting and spreading your ignorance. You're embarrassing the Yankee fans who have common sense.
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Don't forget about his innings limit, so if we are going to make him a starter look at Deion3318's post, he said it perfectly. We aren't going to make him a starter in May.
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look how many problems that team is having because their set-upLook how many games the Yankees have lost because their starters can't hand the set up men a lead. Plus the bullpen is overworked by the starters not being able to go deep into the game. It appears that you are so full of yourself that you think that any Yankee fan that disagrees with you lacks common sence.
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With the loss of Bruney the burden is on Farnsworth, So far he is doing OK. The same for Rasner. I hope they keep it going, but we need to keep our options open, or at least the Yankees do.
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Rasner won't make the yearWith his past history you may be right. We can only hope that he has grown stronger and is able to avoid the injury bug. As Deion has pointed out the inning limit placed on Joba does present a problem, but it is an option that may be taken if the pitching continues to struggle.
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Oldjarhead, although you tried to belittle me, I will respect your opinion on the matter of the subject of the post, however you don't know anything about my beef with this guy so I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself as far as my feelings towards that idiot. In short, he stole my opinions, used it as his own, never gave me credit, and has posted that Joba should become a starter countless times without even considering the other side of the argument, and said that we should trade Hughes, Betemit, and Igawa for Diaz and Infante (Two players we don't need and if we didn't trade Hughes for Johan, why would we trade him for bench players?) on the Braves, and said Teixera and McCann were over-rated.
As far as your opinion on our starters and bullpen, well I'm going to have disagree. Yes, Hughes and Kennedy didn't last too long in many of their starts, however I think you are ignoring our current situation.
Wang, Pettitte, and Rasner have pitched 6+ in all of their starts, except three combined. (Pettitte's two were 5 innings and Wang lasted four). Mussina has won his last four, not all of them were 6+, two of them were five innings, but they were good enough for him. That's 4/5 of our rotation, and although Mussina and Rasner are risks, I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. We also have a couple of more starters in the minors, and trade bait if needed.
As far as our bullpen, Girardi has carried extra relief pitchers the whole season, because of Kennedy, Hughes, and Mussina. Please tell me who is overworked, because I just went through every reliever on the Yankees current roster and none of them are overworked, in fact I would say they're under-worked. These are our relief pitchers:
Farnsworth- 17 app.
Hawkins- 15
Joba- 14
Mo- 14
Ohlendorf- 12
The Mets:
Heilman- 20 app.
Sosa- 19
Feliciano- 19
Smith- 16
Shoeneweis-15
The Mets have played three less games than us by the way.
Our team ERA is currently 4.30, and considering that Hughes and Kennedy pitched only 14% of our innings but gave up 28% of our runs, thats not bad. The rest of our team has a 3.59 ERA, which is great.
Oh and by the way, why is it that only Hank is the only person in the organization that said anything about Joba going to the rotation? I'm sorry to burst your bubbles, but Papelbon was supposed to be a starter too...
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