Jones is kidding right?!?

Calling a school a national power is a farly ambiguous term.  AZ state is a nationaly recognised team (along with nearly every other team in major conferences), and they do not suck.  They regularly go to bowls.  So by that definition they could be a national power. 

Some might say that a national power has to challenge for a national title year in and year out, but then there are only two (USC and tOSU).

I myself think that a national power is a team that is habitually in the top fifteen and chalenges for BCS consideration regularly.  By that definition ASU is not a 'national power' (and certainly not OREGON).

But what kind of 'national power' is going to want to play ND on a nutral sight?  This is the best they could do.  Let the irish and jones think they got something. 

Pooloo - Impressive stats.  And you forgot to mention it is a great place to party.  I shouldn't have generlaized.  Sorry.  Still not a national power in football though.  Time will tell if they get to be one although given DE's propensity in the past to push the recruiting envelope, it won't be surprising if other things appear on the horizon as well. 

Well, remember these years?

Remember in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue? Remember when gas was 25 cents a gal? Would you like some cheese with your whine? Who gives a crap about "those years"? Unless you're a history buff it has zero relevance other than making you feel better and that you think you now have an argument. News flash! Welcome to the here and now and what have you done for me lately, and lately means????? For 9 straight years ND has not won a bowl game. We're not talking about the 90's, 80's, 70's etc we're discussing now and right now 2008 ND simply is a pathetic, has been program. Forgive me that streak actually stretches back into the 90's, my bad. And I could write a page on their statistical ineptness but I don't have the time and it doesn't matter because those who are not myopic already know just how really terrible they are.<o:p> </o:p>

As far as Weis goes, if they didn't owe him so much money (can you say over paid and waaaay over rated?) he'd have been gone. To make fun of someone’s weight is wrong and stupid but I will tell you he is a horrible coach and as long as he's at the helm you will lose.<o:p> </o:p>

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