best starter of all time

Phillip Hughes....LOL

Sandy Koufax only pitched for 12 yrs.   In his first 6, he was 36-40, with an ERA over 4.   His final 6 seasons were incredible - he went 129-47, with an ERA of 2.19.  He had 1,713 K's in the final 6 seasons, for an avg. of 285.5 K's per season during that stretch.  There's no doubt that he was one of the most (if not THE most) dominant pitchers in all of baseball from 1961-1966 inclusive.   I'm not even going to say that he doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, but best starter of all time?  

How is Johan Santana in this poll, but Walter Johnson not? Johan Santana isn't the best starter of all-time, he'd need at least another decade of dominance to be worth a mention.

Walter Johnson deserves mention in this poll over him, and I'd replace Feller and Carlton with Tom Seaver and Warren Spahn. Of course, I'm a big Satchel Paige fan, but we'll keep this within MLB history. But Santana isn't even close to being mentioned in the same class as these guys.

Walter Johnson is the greatest pitcher of all time. That's my opinion. But your poll is screwey. No Walter Johnson? No Greg Maddux? Johan isn't even 30, he's well away from being on this list. Cy Young doesn't deserve to be on the poll. He pitched for a very, very, very long time. That's his main achievement. Sorry, complete games, in that ear, do not equal a great pitcher.

The poll is a total joke without Walter Johnson as one of the choices.

That's the equivilant of leaving Babe Ruth off a list of the best hitters.

Cy Young without a doubt.  111 complete games more than the 2nd all time.  94 more wins than Walter Johnson (who hell yes deserves on this list!)

How about a thread of active pitchers who deserve on this list more than Santana?

I've got Maddux, Pedro, Big Unit, Smoltz, Glavine, Schilling, hell, Brandon Webb for that matter.

These all time threads can be  interesting and fun, but please think them out a little better before posting if you want a more accurate and scientific result.

You just used 2 of the worst stats you could've used.

1. Just about everyone in that timeframe had an ungodly number of complete games. Walter Johnson had 531 complete games. Yes, it's a bunch less than Young, but Young pitched a lot more. 149 more games started, to be exact.
2. Johnson had 37 less losses than Young. Wins and losses tend to pile up over time. And they're mainly based off of the team performance, not pitcher performance.
3. Complete games, wins, losses, and all of that are skewed by how many more games Young started. To combat that, let's use some percentage stats.
4. ERA: Johnson's ERA is .46 lower than Youngs. 2.17 to 2.63.
5. WHIP: .07 lower for Johnson. 1.06 to 1.13.
6. K per 9 IP: Johnson has 1.91 more K's per 9 IP than Young. 5.34 to 3.43
7. BA against: Johnson has a .25 lower BA against. .227 to .252
8. Hits per 9 IP: Johnson has 1.2 less hits per 9 IP. 7.48 to 8.68
9. Young has .59 less BB per 9 IP than Johnson. But that's farily trivial compared to the other stats.

Have I convinced you? I think these stats are impossible to go against.