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What Grade Do You Give Chiefs
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Since:Apr 22, 2007

April 27, 2008 10:39 pm
That is becuase Dayton Moore nows what he is doing

for Carl Peterson

He should run a 8-10 year old football team...then he would not have to worry about trading players off

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April 27, 2008 10:44 pm

FYI, GOO, we did not draft 2 RB's

CBS is wrong yet again. DeJaun Morgan is a safety not a running back.

...and why would we be better off drafting yet another QB this year? We already have 2 young ones and a veteran with one year left on his contract. Definately not a position of immediate need.

You'll most likely get your wish next year when we actually need a QB.


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April 27, 2008 10:59 pm
I think if Croyle doesn't prove himself this season (not that we made it any easier with this draft) we will be lookign to a veteran qb or trading for Brady Quinn.  The next regime and Chief fans will not have the patience to go through another development project. 

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April 27, 2008 11:21 pm
An A the first day and a C the second. Where are the offensive linemen the team needs so badly? Maybe they're gonna convert somebody? That has been done. WR Franklin at the 105th pick is a hope. He has a documented learning disability and will have a real problem learning the playbook this year. He will be a project and will take time. No immediate help at WR. The Chiefs need help everywhere as soon as possible. Especially at offensive line. They made some good picks. They didn't do what they said they would do. Get offensive linemen. But I sure hope they get better. I don't want the games blacked out. Peace all and GO Chiefs!

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April 27, 2008 11:24 pm

Wow SteveDeberg....I'm truely amazed that you can be so dissappointed after what happened on day one in this draft. 

In my opinion, I give this draft an A....it would've been an easy A+ from me if we would've picked up another lineman or two but I'm not as dissappointed with the third round as some of you are.  I LOVE the idea of going after J. Charles....we now have a punishing RB in Larry and then a speed guy in Charles.....not to mention Kolby Smith too.

I also liked how they went after addressing our problems in the secondary.  Flowers is obviously going to make us better and Morgan and Carr will give us much needed depth.

Going after some depth at WR should payoff for us also.  Personally, I think Webb is only going to improve as time goes on so with Bowe, Franklin, and Webb....not only do we have a lot of potential there.....we got YOUNG WR's again! 

The only pick that really left me confused was the last TE pick.  At the same time, I'm going to see how that pick actually plays out.  Like some other members previously mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised to see one of these guys get converted into another position on the line....

One things for sure after this draft....this upcoming season just got a lot more interesting for me.  I'm not expecting the Chiefs to be dominant or anything like that....I'm just looking forward to seeing a YOUNG Chiefs team get better and they came along way to that goal this weekend.  No way you can give them anything less then an A in my opinion.


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Since:Apr 23, 2008

April 27, 2008 11:30 pm

I give them an A, it would of been an A+ but they didn't get a 3rd O-Lineman for depth or didn't address any competition for DE Turk McBride at the Left Defensive End spot. All Day 1 picks will be starters.

RB Jamaal Charles is a great change of pace back, complementing Larry Johnson

TE Brad Cottam is a pick for 2 years from now when Tony Gonzalez will start to decline.

S/CB DaJuan Morgan will help with depth at the Safety spot after Greg Wesley is traded or released next season. And he was the hardest hitting safety in the draft.

WR Wil Franklin is a #3 Receiver at best. He's another Samie Parker.

CB Brandon Carr add's depth to a very average but good young DB corp.

G Barry Richardson is a huge addition to  our line. He will start, and open up running lanes.

RS Kevin Robinson was a great "Luxury" pick, he and B.J. Sams gives us 2 great threats on special teams.

TE Michael Merritt is only run-blocking TE who's great in option and screen plays (Replaces Jason Dunn nicely).

I see us going either 6-10. With another great draft next year...we will win the AFC West !!


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April 27, 2008 11:38 pm
I'm on the same page as markstaff....I think KC definitely deserevs an A for Day 1 of the draft. The first and second round could not have gone any better for KC. I'm a little confused on some of the picks made today though....The safety and TE picks were stretches for me. All in all though, I'm happy with the draft. I would give the Chiefs a B+ or an A-....I guess we'll know whether it was a success or not in about 2-3 years!!

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April 27, 2008 11:45 pm
I give the Chiefs an A+ for this years draft.  How could they miss with 12 picks?

You have to understand that there may have been better players available but character plays a part as well.  We all know that the KC Chiefs will not tolerate any problem children.

They could have taken chances on other players, but why waste picks. 

I know a lot of fans don't like King Carl,  but he is a business man, period.  You have to look at it as a business.  Herm is the best scout of players out there.  He has inherited a team from Dick and now is dealing with the 2nd oldest team in the NFL.  They are on the right track.  I too wish it would happen today and not next year or the year after. 

This year's draft, awesome picks!  Players that can block and players that can hit!  Don't forget the players that were not drafted can come in as free agents!  I think about 20 + players.  It's going to be exciting!

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April 27, 2008 11:57 pm

You also have to take into consideration the type of system that each team uses....For instance, Flowers doesn't exactly have the best 40 time but in KC's "Tampa 2" or whatever, the corners need to be more physical and able to stop the run....Flowers was a great pick for the Chiefs.

That's just my opinion though....


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April 28, 2008 12:59 am
C+ They did too address their needs at OL and spent too many picks on backups/special teams players that will not make an impact.

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April 28, 2008 1:00 am
C+ They did too little to address their needs at OL and spent too many picks on backups/special teams players that will not make an impact.

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April 28, 2008 1:19 am

GOOGOO-

why do you think a ROOKIE QB can develop and lead a team with a terrible offensive line?


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April 28, 2008 2:14 am
I gave us an A for this years draft. An A+ would have required all the picks to be perfect and to make an instant impact, and that's not ever going to happen for any team. However, unlike many other fans I think this draft was great!!! Sure our O-line is in bad shape, but the rest of our team isn't in much better shape. Instead of getting hung up on the offensive line, Herm and Carl focused on the team as a whole. I think in a lot of drafts teams get hung up on one aspect of the team that they feel they need to address and they end up neglecting everything else. Had we drafted 5 or 6 offensive lineman it would have required all of our other pick to work out 100% or else our team would be in worse shape than it's in now, and that's not a realistic situation.

1. Glenn Dorsey - Who thought the best player in the draft would fall far enough for us to draft??? With him in the middle I have heard rumors that Herm wants to try Alfonso Boone or Turk McBride out at the strong side DE position. Either way, it should make the loss of Jared Allen a lot less noticeable, and Dorsey should instantly improve our run defense.

1. Branden Alberts - Has the potential to be a tackle or guard in the NFL. For our sake I hope he pans out as a LT, but a good guard that anchors the line is also more than acceptable. Look for the line to look a lot different this season, I will give my idea of the starting line up here in a bit.

2. Brandon Flowers - In my opinion, he was one of the top 3 CB in the nation with Jenkins and Crommartie. He has the ability to read plays, and plays both the pass and run exceptionally well. He is also a hard hitter which is something that I think everyone can appreciate. In fact, his tackling ability reminds me a little of Patrick Surtain (probably the best pure tackler on the team), although Flowers hits much harder.

3. Jamaal Charles - is definitely a steal in the third round. The guy put up some good numbers for Texas, and is one of the greats when it comes to collegiate track and field. Not sure what the plan is for him, whether it's a change of pace back, or if we are looking to do something with Larry Johnson in the form of a trade...

3. Brad Cottam - Is a bit of a risk with all of his previous injuries, but also has huge upside. I have read he is an amazing route runner, and definitely has the size to be a great TE in the NFL. A guy I know that writes for an NFL team that was at the NFL combine thought us getting this guy in the third round was a steal. His direct words were "Cottam is the best blocking TE in the draft, if he can stay healthy he will be one of the biggest additions to the Chiefs."

3. DaJuan Morgan - I, unlike many, love this pick here. This guy out of NC can do it all...play special teams, CB, FS, and SS. He has one of the best work ethics of any player that we drafted. He wants to learn and contribute to the team in any fashion that he can. I look for him to at least start on Special Teams, however, I really think Herm drafted him to give Bernard Pollard competition at the strong safety position. Pollard struggled last year, and unless he loses some weight to gain some speed and learns how to read the offense better he won't be starting come mid season b/c Morgan will have taken his spot on the field. (I truly believe that Pollard is more of a special teams player anyway).

4. Will Franklin - There is no hiding the fact that I love this pick, which I'm sure all of you know by now. His biggest weakness is his ability to learn and run routes due to a learning disability, however, Pinkel and cast helped him overcome it at MU so I'm sure the same can be done in KC. Don't listen to people like CLW who are still bitter because Alexander, Franklin, and Maclin all lit up their preciously over rated CB Talib at Arrowhead...Franklin doesn't have issues with catching the ball. In fact, many analysts have described him as having soft hands, which explains why he is the current career reception leader in Mizzou history. He is a speedy receiver that is a perfect compliment to a possession receiver like Dwayne Bowe.

5. Brandon Carr - I don't know anything about this guy more than he has the size and speed that NFL scouts look for in a CB, and Herm seems to love this kid. Maybe we found a good NB for this upcoming season...

6. Barry Richardson - His biggest knock is that he seems to have slow feet, and struggled with one of the speed drills for O-lineman at the combine. However, on field production speaks louder than combine scores, and from what I gather this guy is a beast on the inside of the line. He gets a good push, and doesn't seem to get beat all that often, which is saying something because Clemson doesn't play cupcake teams. Also, since LJ is more of an inside runner, his ability to pull and get to the edge faster isn't as big of an initial issue as some may think. His speed can be improved with the proper conditioning. Here is how I think our line will look if we started tomorrow: Albert (LT), Brian Waters (LG),Rudy Niswanger (C), Damion McIntosh (RG/RT), and Richardson (RG/RT).

6. Kevin Robinson - an obvious big play guy as he holds the highest average yards per play for any receiver to ever come out of college. He also seems to be a good returner which should help the worst special teams unit in the league from last season, and he might make an excellent slot receiver in the future.

7. Brian Johnston - Seems to have a lot of talent, but he comes form a DI-AA school which means he still has A LOT to learn before he is ready to go. He doesn't seem to be as big a project as most other 7th round picks usually are, and will probably make the team as a back up since we have little depth at the DE position.

7. Mike Merritt - played TE in college, but was used much more as a blocker. Either they drafted Cottam to be Tony Gonzalez's eventual successor and want Mike Merritt to step into Jason Dunn's spot, or they drafted Cottam to replace Dun and want Merritt to gain some weight and then shift him to the guard position like what was done with Waters years ago. I am leaning towards the latter and hope he at least makes the practice squad.

I know I didn't really add anything that most of you didn't already know, but I wanted to lay the entire draft out there so you could see how positive it really was. Do I wish we could have got some more O-lineman in the draft? Sure, but I don't think there is a single pick other than maybe the in the 7th round that I would change, and the 7th round is so hit and miss it really doesn't matter. I love that we are finally learning to take the best player available and not what we think we have to have. The Vikings had a good HB in Chestor Taylor and didn't need Adrian Peterson, but they took him because he was the best player available and look how that turned out. Even if we still have one weak spot on the O-line, its bound to be a better group than we had in there last year!!!

P.S. how would you guys feel about signing Adam Spieker? He is the C out of Mizzou that stands at 6'2" and weighs 308lbs, and is a great snapper. With Gailey calling the plays I think we will see Brodie in more shotgun sets, and since Spieker played in the spread all his college career is is very accurate when it comes to snapping the ball when the QB is 5-10 yards behind the center. Granted he may need to gain 10-20lbs, but the guy can block in the run and pass, long snap, and read blitzes. Thoughts...


What Grade Do You Give Chiefs
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