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why no foul memphis????


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why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:85
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 25, 2006

April 8, 2008 2:41 pm
why in the heck did memphis not foul at the end of regulation? worst coaching move i have seen in some time. i can not believe they allowed kansas to get a 3 pointer off to even attempt to tie the game. YOU HAVE TO FOUL! send them to the line and make it a 2 possession  game. i feel bad for memphis because they should have won the game. a good coached team would have known to foul in that situation.

why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Feb 13, 2007

April 8, 2008 3:17 pm

I have to agree

For all the arrogance of coach C...the very athletic players reached the title game and could/should have won inspite of the coach.

I feel bad for the players, but congrats to kansas just the same, as they did have the opportunity given to them and they came through.


why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 30, 2006

April 8, 2008 3:48 pm
Coach Cal said they would try to foul once they passed 1/2 court and they did. Sherron Collins was pushed over right before he passed it to Chalmers, thats why the pass was bad and it was bobbled. But the refs did what they were doing the whole game; letting them play through it which I think is better than calling ticky tack fouls.


why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 30, 2006

April 8, 2008 3:51 pm
Coach Cal said they would foul once Kansas passed 1/2 court and they did. Sherron Collins was pushed over right before he passed it to Chalmers, thats why the pass was bad and it was bobbled. But the refs let them play through it which they did all game. Plus Memphis just choked under pressure. You gotta make your FREE throws.


why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 3, 2006

April 8, 2008 3:57 pm
coach Cal was lying.... If they really wanted to foul at half court they could have because Rose was playing right up  on him... He just made a Bone Headed coaching mistake and isnt willing to own up to it...

Great to see Cocky Players and Coaches have to eat there words...

why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 10, 2007

April 8, 2008 5:33 pm
I'm not sure I agree here.  If you foul, the clock stops.  Suppose Kansas hits two, then Memphis has the ball back with a one point lead. They inbound and are fouled immediately.  Given how many free throws Memphis missed in the clutch yesterday (and how many they missed all season), there's plenty of reason to believe they'd have missed those, too. That might give Kansas the ball and, although they'd only have had a second or two left, they'd have had a second or two to hit a basket for the WIN, not the tie.  By not fouling, Memphis ensures that  they do not lose in regulation.

That said, I agree with you that the right coaching move is to foul in that situation.  I just don't think it's as clear cut as you say it is.

why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:80
Level:All-Star
Since:Sep 29, 2006

April 8, 2008 5:48 pm
Very surprised there wasn't a foul OR a time out called by Memphis - they had 10+ seconds and that would have been the time to call a time out and "plot" the end game - but give it up to Kansas - they won it - wasn't given to them - Memphis chocked and Kansas showed poise; made the shots and deserved the win.  Congratulations Kansas (and Memphis for a great season, but no cigar)! From a UK Wildcat fan - very exciting game (for those of us on the outside and Kansas) - I didn't have Memphis getting out of the 2nd round and when they beat UCLA I was relegated to 2nd place in our office pool - Memphis was better than I could imagine (I had a hard time thinking that a team Tennessee beat was really legitimate - given UK's down year and split with Tennessee during the season how could I?)  Anyway, great game to watch!

why no foul memphis????
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kbp
Level:Amateur
Since:Apr 8, 2008

April 8, 2008 8:58 pm
No problem, we can trade fouls.  You get that last one you wanted Memphis to commit and I'll take the technical that is called in all games for slamming the ball. 

End result = KU wins in regulation time.

why no foul memphis????
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Jun 13, 2007

April 9, 2008 8:19 pm

If you actually watch the replay of the last 10 seconds, Collins did a crossover a quarter of the way up the court that gave him some separation from Rose.  At that point Rose couldn't foul him b/c there was some separation....you can see Rose trying to catch up to Collins at that point and then he was kind of behind him and so he couldn't foul b/c it would have potentially been an intentional foul....and then Collins was able to hand it off to Chalmers while he was driving left and there was still some separation between Chalmers and Rose and by then they couldn't foul Chalmers b/c he would have been in a shooting motion for 3 free throws. 

So, in reality, Calipari could be telling the truth here.  Rose might have been thinking he was going to foul Collins when he got to mid court, but he got juked out of position and then he couldn't foul....so Collins deserves some serious credit for the way he took the ball up the court as well as obviously Mario for making the three. 

Check out the clip, you'll see what I'm talking about.

And regardless, KU won the title...Rock Chalk baby.