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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 5, 2008 3:03 pm

I realize the real joke hear is that this moron kid, one day after Chris Henry is cut for being a delinquent, is causing a disturbance in a police station parking lot no less, with a bag of weed in his car.  Then to top it all off, he plays the fastest position in the league and can't outrun the cops.  Thats pathetic.  But, to switch focus, isn't it time the Players Union steps up and says that they don't want marijuana to be punished by the NFL? 

Of course its already against the law (unfortunately) and they'll have to face charges there, and if they are caught they can probably kiss any endorsement money goodbye.  Thats enough.  The NFL doesn't then need to get involved with suspensions and all that.  Why should the NFL care if the players are smoking weed, especially in the off season.  Its not performing enhancing, and lets be honest here, its not bad for you either.  Of course if you use it too often you cna become a space cadet, but add that to the list of things that are bad for you if you take too much which includes EVERYTHING. 

Sugar, coffee, red meat, alcohol, work, you name it.  I'm sure if you ate too many tomatoes that would be bad for you.  One visit to McDonalds isn't bad for you, but if you eat too much one day they are going to find you dead, cut you open, and find a quarter pounder w/ cheese where your heart used to be.  One candybar won't kill you, but if you eat a pound of sugar in one sitting I think it might.  Anyway, marijuana has some nice benefits too which include calming a person down, reducing anxiety, helping a person sleep, and eat, and sometimes giving one a little vision and perspective. 

Right now, I think the NFL punishes marijuana harder than it does steroids (or maybe the same) which seems rediculous to me.  Steroids is much worse for the body and its cheating on the field.  Its time the NFL players stand up and say they want the NFL to leave marijuana out of the realm of punishable offenses.  Didn't the NBA players do that in one of their CBAs?  I believe I heard that.  Then we can all see hippies like Ricky Williams finish their careers.


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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 3, 2008

April 5, 2008 3:19 pm

two points <o:p> </o:p>

1. Playing in the NFL is a Privilege and not a right.  If the players are not willing to follow the simple rules set forth in their contracts (the same contracts that make them millions of dollars) and the standards that the league sets than their privilege has to be revoked.<o:p> </o:p>

2.  Selfishness.  You listed other things that can/are considered vices by certain people and that great athletes have ended their careers because of it.  I wouldn't want a player on my team that was willing to jeopardize his career and the teams season because he couldn't control his urge to light up, shoot up or anything else drug related.<o:p> </o:p>

If you don't like the US's policy on drugs and advocate legalizing it; write a letter to your congressman; not one trying to defend a series of idiots who knowingly throw their lives away. I definitely agree that steroids are a terrible problem and we have seen how it has affected the MLB.  The NFL must continue to work to try to irradiate all illegal substances from the league; not just the ones that help them on the field. <o:p> </o:p>

 


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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 5, 2008 3:56 pm

I think you missed my point Chipstar b/c I'm not disagreeing with your points at all.

My suggestion is that the Players Union bargain in their next Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) to have marijuana removed from the list of offenses punishable by the NFL.  Then I stated reasons for that being: Its not performing enhancing, its not bad for you, and it can actually be beneficial to an individual, and I should add that it is pretty commonly used.

At this moment in time the rule is otherwise and players are getting punished.  I'm not defending them.  They broke the rules and they are going to get their just desserts.  I'm suggesting they change the rules for the future.  I

'm not sure I understand your second point exactly, but I do agree that I wouldn't want a player on my team that can't control his urge to partake in unhealthy activities.  Of course, if he's going to be out there performing well, then maybe those things aren't that unhealthy for him.  I understand Lawrence Taylor was that type of player.


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Reputation:81
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 15, 2007

April 5, 2008 6:05 pm
First of all, this "moron kid" is a 30 1/2  year old man. You might get away with calling a 22 year old a kid, but 30+...no. Secondly, if you think the NFL will/should do away with punishments for mari-jah-wah-nah, you have been smoking too much of it yourself. While I'd agree that from a societal standpoint it should be decriminalized, I'd still expect organizations such as the NFL to prohibit and test for its usage, and punish those who do (much in the same way that alcohol is legal, but you don't get to drink it while on the job). Most of your other "reasons" are pretty silly, so I'm just going to let them be....

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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 7, 2008

April 6, 2008 12:07 am
I agree... "moron kid"... not at 30.

But for the league to possibly punish him for testing positive for marijuana in the off-season, that's a bit much to me. During the season... absolutely.

And about the benefits of marijuana... it apparently doens't make you run faster... he might have wanted to do crack... as Dave Chappelle once said, "you can't catch a crackhead".

Wright was probably so high on pot, he just didn't feel like running anymore. That's one of the cons with pot, it absolutely lowers your ambition... he probably just gave up trying to evade the cops on foot.

But having pot in your car in a Police station parking lot, starting an argument (or whatever it was), and running from the Po when your car is IN THE POLICE STATION'S PARKING LOT... that must've been some damn good weed, because dude was clueless with what he did. It's kind of sad really, but really funny at the same time. For his sake, I hope it was the pot, because I'd hate to think that people can actually be this dumb. (but sadly, I do)

This definitely tops Brandon Marshall's, "I slipped on a fast food bag and cut the **** out of my arm" incident.


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Reputation:76
Level:Pro
Since:Nov 17, 2006

April 6, 2008 9:40 am

First, I don't post that much, because it's pointless!!!

But I have about a minute of time to WASTE!!!

1-His job is considered a year round job.  Just because it's the football off season, doesn't mean he's not still getting paid.  Also at my job where I make 30k/yr (a ot less the he does), I can get fired for using marijuana on my "off time". 

2- He can hurt the reputation of the league and team for things he does outside of "work", just like a person in any other business...  Which is also grounds for someone being fired

3- Trying to use the "maraijuana is not bad for you" arguement -- I think the "Moron Kid" statement was for you.   Maraijuana is used for medicinal purposes for extreme cases, not commonly, which requires a person to carry a medical card around.

4- IT"S ILLEGAL IDIOT!!!   QUIT TRYING TO MAKE IT SEEM ALRIGHT.  The contract, which is signed by the players, mentions it.  And.. The Law happens to mention it too..

5- He ran from the cops, so he new it wasn't right

6- I only want my kids watching football players that can be good role models for them, not dumbA$$e$ that have talent and try throwing it away. Especially when they play for the Browns  I don;t want to start looking like the Bengals

7- I feel like my time on the message board is time wasted, but that's how I usually feel readnig these dumb things

 

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!


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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 6, 2008 2:43 pm

I can't figure out whether you people are actually replying to my post or not.  If so, it seems like you don't read thouroughly.  We are apparently having a heated agreement in which I make good points, you people ignore them and hurl insults.  I want to clarify. 

I am not defending the players that break the rules and smoke weed.  I am suggesting that in the future, when the players renegotiate their collective bargaining agreement, they bargain to take marijuana out of the list of punishable offenses by the NFL.  Let that sink into your thick skull a little bit Bucksfan.

I believe that the NBA players actually did this b/c so many of them smoke and they didn't want to be fined and suspended everytime they were caught in addition to the legal problems that they face. The legal punishment is much less punishment than a game paycheck.  Maybe a $200 fine or a night in jail or something.  Are you retards feeling me yet? 

Now, as the rule stands, the NFL players are getting fined and suspended, and as you say, thats what they signed up for so thats what they get.  I agree.  That is why they should change the rule in the future.  Now, this seems clear to me, but no telling how you people out there are going to respond to it, so I reiterate, I AM NOT DEFENDING THE PLAYERS WHO BREAK THE RULES.

I do want to respond to this fool Bucksfan's eternal wisdom. 

"Trying to use the "maraijuana is not bad for you" arguement -- I think the "Moron Kid" statement was for you.   Maraijuana is used for medicinal purposes for extreme cases, not commonly, which requires a person to carry a medical card around."

Actually, Bucksfan, marijuana is used VERY COMMONLY.  It is used commonly as legal medicine all over the world.  It helps you eat and sleep which is what it usually takes to get better from most ailments.  It is poor mans medicine in just about every country south of the U.S.  Including India, a country with about four times our population.  Believe it or not the world doesn't end at the US borders.  But how would you know, you've probably never left Ohio except on that spring break trip to Cancun where you didn't do bad things like smoke marijuana, you just drank yourself into a stupor you apparently have yet to emerge from. 

It is illegal in this country so it is not commonly used as legal medicine.  However, it is used as legal medicine to some extent.  It is also used as illegal medicine quite commonly.  Can it be abused?  Of course, I thought I made very good, colorful point about how everthing can be abused.  Because it can be abused doesn't inherently make it bad for you.

Secondly, about your kids watching role model football players blah blah blah, I've got news for you:  Your kids are going to smoke marijuana.  Its going to happen.  How much a part of their life it will become is up to them and to some extent you and how you raise them.  Its not going to have anything to do with whether they watch Ricky Williams play football or not.  Wake up!


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Reputation:90
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 15, 2007

April 6, 2008 4:51 pm