the sec's best vs. cal.

  I hear you. But that guy is part of the BCS equation. Here is another source from the BCS which I am sure will make LSU fans happy... They have Mizzou #1 (see why... it is interesting) and some other odd things.. but that is the BCS and the formula, right?

http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html

They have SEC #1 Conf, Pac 10 #2... Pac 10 has the tougher SOS. Rankings to the left and SOS to the right...

Kentucky

32 Ark 33

3 LSU 26

61 Vandy 21

Arkansas

3 LSU 26

78 Miss 6

41 SC 11

29 Miss St 23

Stanford

4 USC 29

35 Cal 10

56 AZ 8

I think Cal at its best can compete ... here are Cal and Tenn two best wins. Of course, Cal had to be more consistent. But the point is ability to compete.

Cal 11

11 Tenn 7

12 Ore 4

Tenn 7

5 UGA 30

32 Ark 33

Is that much better? I just don't get it. What is so tough about saying that Kentucky's wins were about the same as Stanford and Ark was just one win better. I think Stanford wins 3 games in the SEC same as Kentucky and is just one game behind Ark. How is that not being able to compete...

Let me know.

This is a very good point. Many people fail to realize that 3 out of the last 4 Big Ten-Pac Ten Rose Bowl matchups featured the Pac Ten champion (USC each time) vs the Big Ten runner up. Not exactly a fair matchup, especially when you add the fact that it's played in Pasadena, CA.

  USC beat Stanford that year 42-0.

-- Not that big of a difference to me.

rcooke:

You have to be one of the biggest homers I have seen on these boards. I know the SEC has a lot of delusional fans, but if you want to compare Arkansas to Stanford last year, it just shows your football ignorance.

Answer this: how did the past TWO SEC runner-ups do against the Pac 10?

People can truly be this ignorant, can they?

I'll play that stupid game:

I guess App St would have finished around 3rd in the Big 10 last year. They beat Michigan.

I guess Michigan would have finished around 3rd in the SEC last year. They beat Florida.

Even though Cal had a colapse after the Oregon game, they would have finished 2nd in the SEC last year. They beat Tenn.

The PAC 10 can beat the SEC runner up. That means the PAC 10 is runner up to the SEC.

Here is another source from the BCS which I am sure will make LSU fans happy..

You know what makes LSU fans happy? They have won TWO BCS National Championships.

Give me SOS, give me what some "expert" thinks, and give me polls. SInce the BCS era,  the SEC will show they have more bowl wins, more BCS wins, a better bowl winning percentage, and more Championships than the PAC 10.

That pretty much settles it on the field.

I disagree.  Cal has not had a losing season since 01.  The Hogs have had two such seasons.  Not every year, but overall Cal has been better this decade.

I believe thats the type of prgram they would be in the SEC...middle of the pack competing for a division title periodically. That is just my comparison to how I believe they would perform in the SEC. It was to make a point that they would not year in and year out compete with Georgia, Florida, UT, LSU and Auburn.

And again, I have nothiong against Cal what so ever...the name of the thread was could Cal compete with SEC's best and I think that their is an overwhelming majority that says they could not compete with the SEC best year in and year out.