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Will the PATS go undeafeted again this year and finish what they had started?
With all the weapons they have and all the new players they got out of the draft it is very possible. But what i think is the undeafeted season is in the back of there mind they now that would be awsome but what they realy want is just to make it to the playoffs and win the superbowl agian and if they could do that with an undeafeted season then that would be awsome but that is not the most important part.
The Pats just need to focus on there amazing offense and keep there line in good shape. The most importante thing they need to do is keep there defense in shape and make it the best in the NFL.
If they can do all this will they go undeafeted and win the superbowl or what will happen?
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It doesnt matter if they go 19-0 cuz they cheat. they use video cameras in the illegal locations and use signals stolen from the other teams defense. so thats why brady sucks and moss sucks and the fans suck.
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Take this thread to the Patriots team board, not the main one.
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If you concider that as cheating then every NFL team cheats because they all do that. You still need skill and stength to win a football game.
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"use signals stolen from the other teams defense."
Actually, EVERY team tries to steal signals.
"so thats why brady sucks and moss sucks"
Brady, 50 TD's... Moss, 23 TD's.... ALL without cheating. Yep, they suck alright.
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Look, I'm not trying to fight you about this one, but
If you concider that as cheating then every NFL team cheats because they all do that. You still need skill and stength to win a football game.
Look, i don't care about the whole spygate business. However, where's the evidence of this statement that you posted?
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No, I'm a vigilante trying to turn the NFL message board back into a general chat board and not a hybrid Patriots board.
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And think about it logically...this was addressed to Pats fans, so why wouldn't this go on the Pats board?
P.S. Don't be so quick to spit fire. It's not very becoming.
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If you concider that as cheating then every NFL team cheats because they all do that. You still need skill and stength to win a football game.
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Dude, you should know better by now. Common sense isnt a strong point on this board. They dont want to hear that <gasp> every team has used surveilance on other teams. Remember, its much easier to dismiss the greatness that is known as the Patriots by assuming that they are the ONLY ones to have ever used a video camera. Shame on you.
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Look, I'm not trying to fight you about this one, but
If you concider that as cheating then every NFL team cheats because they all do that. You still need skill and stength to win a football game.
Look, i don't care about the whole spygate business. However, where's the evidence of this statement that you posted?
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Do a little research. I've read or seen interviews with at least a dozen former players and coaches who have said that their team has done the SAME EXACT THING. If the Pats are guilty of anything its that they are guilty of getting caught. ....and that wouldnt have happend if that little rat in New York didnt whine like a little girl to the NFL.
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It is true that other people try to destroy the Pat's as far as spygate goes, but nobody here can really just sit there and say that every other team does it and state it as if its a fact. It isn't a fact.
Do you have any affiliation with the other teams organizations? No. Do you shoot hoops with the other teams owners and coaches? No. Do you work directly with the other teams organizations? No.
So you have no real stand point and you can't really say it as if it is a fact. I see where you are coming from, and it's a cool post man, but you don't know for sure. To be honest, I can't really see other teams doing this too much. I really don't. I don't know at all, but at most I can see maybe a few teams that do this. However, if there were more, I would think they would've been caught.
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Ok, I'll take your word for it. Do you have any ideas where to find these interviews on the internet?
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No, I'm a vigilante trying to turn the NFL message board back into a general chat board and not a hybrid Patriots board.
If we only could...I tried posting real NFL stuff and everyone jumps on the basherwagon. That said, who takes the AFC south this year?
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This is true though, like racerchamp says. This is clearly a Pat's discussion exclusively for Pat's fans, as it says in the title, so it should be on the Pat's team board.
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"It is true that other people try to destroy the Pat's as far as spygate goes, but nobody here can really just sit there and say that every other team does it and state it as if its a fact. It isn't a fact."
Tweaker... Here's an interview with Jimmy Johnson regarding his days with the Dallas Cowboys. I hope you'll find this enlightening...
JJ:Oh please. I've said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the Chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they're not on the press box side you can't do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.
Q: You think the NFL came down too hard on them?
JJ: No, no, I said it on the show. He was wrong for doing it for the simple reason that the league knew this was going on not ust in New England but around the league. And the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And os that's when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don't do it any more, he did it.
Q: Did you ever steal signals?
JJ: Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did.
Q: Via video, Jimmy? Or no?
JJ: Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you're going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.
Q: But did you do it by taping the signal caller?
JJ: Yeah.
Q: Oh you did.
JJ: That's what I'm saying. I was saying one of Marty Schottenheimers scouts, Mark Hatley, who has passed away now, Mark told me that's how they did it, and Howard Mudd their offensive line coach with Kansas City, who now coaches for Tony Dungy, he was the best in the entire league at stealing signals.
Q: Where'd you put your guy who was videotaping? Where was he?
JJ: My guy was up with my camera crew in the press box. So you'd just put an extra camera up with your camera crew in the press box who zoomed in on the signal callers. That's the best way to do it, but anyway you can't always do that because the press box camera crew might be on the same side as the opposing team. If they're on the same side as the opposing team that's when you need to do it from the sideline.
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