Paul 2nd team all De, 2nd fiddle to Kobe again

Kobe is a great player without a doubt but how are you going to bring up championships when he one all three with Shaq. After shaq left how many did he win? Now the Lakers are playing good again. and when did they start winning? They started winning when they traded for Pau Gasol. Kobe hasnt done anything without a good big man.

As for Pual finshing 2nd to Kobe on the all defensive team. He didnt they play two diffrent postions. Pual finshed 2nd to Bowen( only one on 1st team that plays Point somtimes)

Shmalzel, you need to learn some basic English.....Next, who cares that Kobe played with Shaq when he won 3 titles. Kobe was  on the first All-NBA team for 2 of those. He avg'd 28 pts in the playoffs on the last 2 titles, and was the go-to guy in the clutch, since Shaq was a liability late in games. Remember Shaq had never won a title until Kobe was named a starter and blossomed into the best guard in the league....In fact Shaq was swept out of the playoffs 4 straight years until Kobe was made a starter.....So you're point about Kobe not winning a title "on his own" is moronic. That's like saying Magic's 5 rings don't count because he had Kareem and worthy and cooper. Bird's rings don't count because he had Mchale, Parrish and D.J. MJ's rings don't count because he had 2 H.O.Famers in Rodman and Pippen. No one wins rings on their own. Period.

Kobe was also the MVP of the Lakers 3 championship run, in the Western conference playoffs, which were the real finals since the East was always so bad. Shaq poured it on in the finals, against infrerior competition and won the finals mvp. But Kobe was the leader against the Spurs, Portland, Sac Kings. Check the stats.

Sorry N.O you can't rewrite history. Kobe is a 3-time champion, soon to be 4, and there's nothing you guys can do to change. paul is a very good little guard who's surrounded by much more talent than Kobe. But make no mistake about it, Kobe is the vastly superior player. Better offensively. Better defensively. Better in the clutch. Better period. That's why Kobe's the best player in the league, and Paul falls way, way, short.....DEAL WITH IT!!!

Sman please tell how paul is surrounded by more talent.

Pual has:

Chandler- An avarge center has had some big games but has also had slot of bad games

West- Had a breakout year and is looking like he is going to be a good player

Peja- Is a good shoter but thats about it

Peterson- needs to be replaced

Kobe has:

Bynum- was playing at all star level before he got hurt

Gasol- domoinate big bad

Odem- another all star caliber plaer

fisher- is a preety good point gaurd

not to mention how much better the Lakers bench is

Schmalzel, you really need to learn basic English....And for the record, Kobe is better than Stockton and Isiah. The only guard better than Kobe was MJ, and Kobe still has a chance at equaling and even surpassing his accomplishments.....And Saints fan, Paul does have more talent to work with, that what Kobe does.

West is an allstar. Stojokovic was an allstar, and Chandler is a great rebounder, defender and shoots over 60 pct from the floor. Kobe has no allstars on his team. Gasol is a former allstar, but hasn't been in year. Bynum's out and Odom is inconsistent. Plus, NO's has the better bench.I'd take Pargo and Wells over Walton and Sasha any day.

It's amazing that Kobe's taken these guys so far, and is actually going to win an NBA title with these guys. At that point, they'll have to put him on the same level as MJ. Don't you think?

Has Kobe won a championship without Shaq? I thought not. Until he does, do not even start comparing him to MJ. There is no comparison yet.

Have Jordan won a ring without Pippen. Did Magic Jonhson win a ring without Kareem? Did shaq win a ring before Kobe developed into a complete player?

BTW, how do you win a ring with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker as your starter?