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D'Antoni to sign with Knicks. Now What?


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D'Antoni to sign with Knicks. Now What?
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May 10, 2008 9:24 pm

Mike D'Antoni has agreed to terms of a contract offered by the Knicks. He will sign monday and become the Knicks new Head Coach next year. Looks like the offer is 24 mil. over 4 years.

So now who do the Bulls hire? Or better yet, who WILL John Paxson pick? I have also read that Avery Johnson may want to sit out a year. If so there are suddenly no top notch coaches out there. I really do not think we should hire an unproven coach. We need a good coach with NBA head coaching experience.


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May 10, 2008 9:29 pm

ChiTownCliff,

I could not agree with you more.

Do you remember me saying a couple weeks ago that Paxon's extensive search will end up on the loosing end? 


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May 10, 2008 9:59 pm

ginney,

I remember you saying that and now John Paxson has put the Bulls in a bad spot. Unless Paxson still decides to sign Avery Johnson, I do not know who else he can sign.

Larry Brown to the Bobcats, Rick Carlisle to the Mavericks, and now Mike D'Antoni to the Knicks. The only top notch coach left out there is Avery Johnson unless Jeff Van Gungy or Doug Collins decide to coach again. Really who else is there out there with NBA head coaching experience. I can not think of anyone. The Bulls need a coach with experience not an asst. coach.


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May 10, 2008 10:33 pm
i'm not overly familiar with the Bulls situation as someone who only sort of follows them, but an assistant coach may not be all bad.  rick carlisle went from assistant with the Pacers under larry bird to head coach with the Pistons with quite a bit of success.

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May 10, 2008 10:39 pm
You are right that Rick Carlisle did turn out to be a good coach, but it is still a risk. If you have a proven NBA coach then you try to land them if you can. The Bulls had a very disappointing season. Instead of 50+ wins they stunk it up. They can not take a chance with a coach. Boylan was an asst. coach put he was no good. I hope Paxson can still convince Avery Johnson to sign.

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May 11, 2008 12:29 pm

Carlisle was hands down, my first choice, AND could have been had at a decent price......4/17 was a price that would have fit very well into the Bulls buget. Pax chipped on that, and it might haunt him if he fails to hire the right coach. I still think he flirted with dissaster (gosh, pardon my spelling) be openly saying he will stick to his "Master interviewing plans", and interview everyone he can.

I'll go out on a limb and say that i think Johnson did more with less in Dallas, than D'Antoni did in Phoenix. It will be interesting to see what Carlisle does now in Dallas. 

Considering what's left, Johnson, being more of a defensive minded coach, might be the better fit in Chicago, but his asking price will probably be too steep for the Bulls.

Tom Thibodeau (who Jazzman61 likes alot), might be a good choice, and articles i have read say he might be had for 2-3 mill per. What if he turns down the offer, or wants more than the Bulls are willing to give? That wouldn't surprise me at this point.

Then your question of "Now What" , and what i have been saying all along, may become reality, because the list is getting shorter and shorter everyday.


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May 11, 2008 12:39 pm

ginney,

It is getting very scary as the list gets smaller and smaller. Tom Thibodeau sounds like a guy John Paxson could hire. From what I have read he is the mastermind behind the Celtics defense. He is also cheap. Avery Johnson has stated he might take a year off. That could be just a ploy to drive up an asking price. Thibodeau may be the man, but I hope for John Paxson's sake he is the right man. Not jumping on Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Mike D'Antoni, or Avery Johnson could be the biggest mistake Paxson ever makes.


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May 11, 2008 2:19 pm
I think we all know it was about the money in this situation. You can't really blame paxon for this one ya know. I mean D'Antoni would rather have the money and a bad team at that. The Knicks are going no where and that will most likely tarnish is reputation as a coach. He didn't even give the Bulls a chance to give him an offer which wasn't fair. I'm pretty sure about 50 percent of he Bulls fans didn't even want D'Antoni to be the Bulls coach anyways.

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May 11, 2008 7:50 pm
You can't really blame paxon for this one ya know

Bulls082,

Your kidding right? How can you not blame Pax when he fired a coach knowing he would still have to honor the contract he gave him. Although it turns out to be only 4.5 mill over 2 years, instead of 8.5. But still, he knew he would have to replace him with another coach who might want to get paid.

I blame Pax for masterminding this sad turnaround of a franchise.

Heck, up untill he started dragging his feet with this rediculous search to find the right coach, (which could net him nothing good) a month ago, I was one of his biggest supporters. But i am slowly falling off his bandwagon.

I mean, your the GM, why the &@%% does your meddling owner need to interview a coaching prospect??? If he (Pax) wanted to hire D'Antoni, like he now says he was going to do, then why does the owner need to interview him. Pax should have hired him after the interview, before anyone else (NY) had the chance.

That would be a major red flag to me if I'm the coach considering taking a job in Chicago.

D'Antoni walked away from Pheonix because Kerr was a meddler, why the &@^^ would he want to take a job with a meddling GM AND owner.

Good grief!


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May 11, 2008 9:14 pm
Ginney,

Hey man get over yourself. And I suggest you change that tone.Yeah Pax is some what responsible for not hiring D"Antoni, but it was all about finding a defensive minded coach. D'Antoni was not going to change his coaching style for Paxon.D'Antoni's  a good coach, but not a great coach so i'm not going to lose any sleep over him going to the Knicks. Yeah Pax wanted to hire D'Antoni, but not at the price he was demanding. It's bullshit that you look at it like that and yes it does suck that he chose the Knicks over Bulls, but at the end of the day that will be his own demise.

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May 11, 2008 11:43 pm

i don't mind them not signing d'antonio, i like avery better anyway.

yes it would have been fun watchung them run up and down the court but at the end would not be fun watching them lose 128-124.

he obviously wanted the money more than anything and that kind if money is rediculous for a coach who cannot win the big one.

personally,  i don't mind them going after an asst .coach or ABA coach. there are many coaches from those ranks that have been VERY successful, you just have to pick the right one, same goes for the right head coach.

look at avery johnson, carlisle, d'antonio, puil jackson etc. none of them had head coacing experience and they have all been successful.

i would like to see them hire, ya ready? BILL LAMBIER. he will someday be a head coach in this league and a good one at that.

 


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May 12, 2008 10:33 am

Bulls082,

I need to get over myself because i have an opinion? Just because i dissagree with you, i need to change my tone?? It sucks to look at it the way i do???

I admit that i am sensetive to condescending remarks, (and we all should be), but to dissagree with someone, is simply having an opinion, WHICH is why we are all here right?

The purpose of these threads is for all of us armchair GM's and die hard fans to vent, make suggestions (even if they are considered way out there by some), and debate what others post. I for one, have learned alot from others on these threads, enough to change my opinions of certain things, and take a lighter stance. I am very sure that debating certain topics with you, might also change my mind.

IF I ever come across as condescending towards you, then I would expect you to put me in my place, and I will defenately give you an apology. Otherwise, me saying that "your kidding right", is hardly a reason to take offense, and simply a dissagreement in terms for simple debate.

I do agree with you, and also will not loose sleep by the Bulls not signing D'Antoni, my problem is the way it all went down, and the fact that the list is getting smaller, with no guarantees that any of the other prospects will land in Chicago....leaving us to have a lottery chair with the Bulls name on it.

For the record, Pax was ready to hire him for the 6 mill per, just got there too late.


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