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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Since:Apr 17, 2008
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Cajun-I totally get where you are coming from. But, and there always seems to be a great big but somewhere, I still think that you are wrong.
You keep talking about late season games, or rivalry games meaning nothing. That I believe is a misconception on your part. If teams lose late in the year, more often than not, they will fall in the BCS poll. That gives teams incentive to finish in the top 8 teams. You know if you rest your top-guns, like the Colts have in the past, then you run the risk of losing and dropping out of the top 8.
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Name one real rivalry in the NFL ...
Are you seriously asking that question? If so, let me see, hmmmmmmmmm..........
Packers and Bears, Redskins and Cowboys, Vikings and Packers, I have only thought about 15 seconds and already came up with three. If I thought really hard about it, I could probably come up with several others.
Are they the same kind of rivalries that college football is, the answer is no. But I don't think that we can keep comparing the NFL system of playoffs/rivalries to the college game. I for one have not made that comparison, and will not make it.
The NFL is about making money. College football is about "student-athletes" (cough/ choke), but money plays a role whether we like it to or not. The BCS is about money also. There is about a bajillion dollars out there for this kind of 8 team playoff for college.
I don't recall seeing any "scientific" polls about college fans having a preference as to the BCS as is, adding a plus one, or going to a full-fledge playoff system. I for one would be anxious to see how that poll would turn out.
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VolsNShoes, I think you got my drift re: NFL rivalries vs. CFB rivalries. And certainly, it's largely about making money. These people (in the NFL and big-time CFB) are not gonna do anything to turn off the spiggot. But I think the money is secondary because, like you said, a CFB playoff could make even more money.
To me, the main reason not to go to a playoff or at worst do a plus-one is protecting the worth of regular season games -- individual games like old-time rivalries, etc.
I guess it all depends on what kind of playoff is put in place. My tOSU-Michigan example upstream here goes according to one scheme I've heard that puts conf champs in the playoff. Then there's the one you're describing, which would use the polls/BCS to determine playoff participants.
Just off the top of my head, suppose you have an undefeated top-ranked USC going against a bad UCLA in the last game of the season. Think USC might sit Little Joe McKnight to let him rest up for the playoffs? Got a whole stable of RBs there, right? Even a loss in that game, making an 11-1 USC, ain't gonna keep them out of the top 8. But in the BCS, Troy's got to play its best to ensure they end up in the top TWO.
Anyway, I understand the desire for a playoff. I just think the 2007 NYGiants proved that even a playoff "champ" can put a bad taste in people's mouths. There's no perfect system, and I think CFB, as is, gives more worth to individual regular season games than TWO Giants losses to "rival" Dallas which can be "avenged" later in the playoffs.
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BigDawgs, do you think that Barnhart idea would pass muster with your typical CFB playoff advocate? Way too subjective and not "purely" objective enough (i.e., W's and L's) for them, don't you think?
Which means ... I sorta like the idea. 
Cajun, it ain't pefect by any stretch. But I think it is a step beyond what we currently have. Hell, if for no other reason than we would get the traditional New Years Bowls back to where they should be. If it does only that it would be a relative success.
I don't agree with you on the rivalries though. You don't really have a viable in state rival that is OOC. We are on a good run against the North Avenue Trade School right now, but if we lose, it is PAINFUL. Since I really am not that obsessed with the BCS title game, this is most definitely a very important game to me. I cannot fathom having to sit key players in this game.
Finally, the bottom line is that there is not going to be be an 8 team or more playoff. Simply ain't happenin, so I wish folks would start looking at options to improve what we have. Barnhart has put forth an option that I think is better than what we have.
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Anyway, I understand the desire for a playoff. I just think the 2007 NYGiants proved that even a playoff "champ" can put a bad taste in people's mouths. There's no perfect system, and I think CFB, as is, gives more worth to individual regular season games than TWO Giants losses to "rival" Dallas which can be "avenged" later in the playoffs.
Cajun, I am not a huge NFL fan. I find it kind of anti climatic after Saturday, but it is also a different sport. A 32 team league is very suited to a playoff. If it has no more teams than it does now I have no problem. As far as the Giants go, I could not be happier. I don't think too many folks outside of New England had a bad taste in their mouth and I generally, usually, almost always never pull for New York teams. I enjoyed watching Eli make people look like idiots....especially one each Tiki Barber. I love the underdog beating the bully....most of the time.
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Dawgs,
I need a favor. Head over to the PSU football board and check out the "hottest avatar" thread. Vote for my 'tar -- Paz Vega.
The rest of you guys check it out, too, but if you're not going to vote for Paz, . . .
Thanks!
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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I just think the 2007 NYGiants proved that even a playoff "champ" can put a bad taste in people's mouths. There's no perfect system, and I think CFB, as is, gives more worth to individual regular season games than TWO Giants losses to "rival" Dallas which can be "avenged" later in the playoffs.
Is this statement any more true than the fact that Notre Dame stockpiled AP National Championships in the 1930s/40s?
I myself prefer the Giants scenario than to allow it to be decided strictly either through a sportswriter and his whim, or a computer that can also be designed and programmed by a whim.
A 2 D?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Dawgs,
I need a favor. Head over to the PSU football board and check out the "hottest avatar" thread. Vote for my 'tar -- Paz Vega.
The rest of you guys check it out, too, but if you're not going to vote for Paz, . . .
Thanks!
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PSU_Lions_84.....Mission Accomplished. I voted but made no comments. I was afraid once the Lion fans saw UGA VI, they would all recast their votes!
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Playoff hurt the Regular Season?
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Reputation:97
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I owe you, man!
Good point re UGA VI, but the competition was supposed to be amongst female avatars. I don't know how to ask this delicately, bu | |