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Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!


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Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 12, 2007

May 6, 2008 3:01 pm
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Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 28, 2006

May 6, 2008 3:03 pm

So you've never gotten better at ANYTHING over time?

It's possible he's juicing but what explains why almost every guy who is 27 produces big numbers? Why is that some guys who average in the minors do great in the bigs btu other guys who are loaded with "potential" and kill minor league pitching bat .220 in the bigs?

If the guy gained 40 pounds and his head changed shapes yea test him. Otherwise i'd say you're jsut whining becuase the guy you played against in Fantasy baseball last week had him in his lineup and you didn't know enough to even draft him. (thankfully I did but with Joe Mauer it's been a toss up)


Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 29, 2007

May 6, 2008 3:03 pm
Soto had great numbers in triple a last year and great numbers when they called him up at the end of last year. He just keeps on hitting. No juice, just skill.

Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Jul 26, 2007

May 6, 2008 3:10 pm

Glad to see you corrected it. I would have mentioned it then but I WAS NOT ON.

Fair enough, but I corrected before you blasted me.

Anyway, define "never hit  inhumanly ridiculous numbers".

44 HR with 145 RBIs

44 HRs with 165 RBIs

45 HRs with 145 RBIs


Notice how you dont see numbers in the 50s? 

For 25 years nobody hit 50 HR and now with PEDs readily available there are a handful who do it every year.

Look at ManRam's stats.  Two of those years were from his prime when he was 26, 27.  The best hitters in baseball always put up numbers like that in their prime.  At 24 he hit 33 HR.  The numbers are relatively stable.  He also averaged killed the ball in the minors, much as he did in HS.  ManRam was always a brilliant hitter.  His power numbers are consistent with brilliant hitters like Schmidt in the 80s, Reggie in the 70s, Mantle in the 50s-60s, Joe D in the 40s.

Giambi never reached any of these.....and he admits to using PEDs


Jason Grimsley was busted and he never became Johan.  Big deal.  PEDs help enhance your ability.  Obviously, some players have more ability to enhance than others. 


oh, and I like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!de gustibus non est disputandum

 


Soto clearly on the juice!!!!!!!!!
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