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Keppinger - Go or Stay?


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Keppinger - Go or Stay?
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April 30, 2008 11:04 am
I'm new here, and a Reds fan. Will Keppinger remain an everyday player at SS do ya'll feel? Thanks, love watching this guy play and glad to find a site for Reds fans. Wolf

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April 30, 2008 11:09 am
I hope he stays at SS.  But, with Dusty playing his boy Patterson every day at CF even though he's hitting .214, anything's possible.  Keppinger is about the most consistent hitter we have right now and should stay in the lineup.  But, we have the Dusty factor to deal with.

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April 30, 2008 11:31 am

I can't think of a reason why he shouldn't be the everyday SS!!  But, as was said before me, there is the Dusty Baker factor.  Kepp has been a consistant spark on offense and does a hell of a job on defense as well.  Kepp is for real and should be the Reds SS for this year AND the future!

GO REDS!


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April 30, 2008 11:35 am

Here's what I think will happen:

A-Gon returns to the roster and gets about HALF of the starts at SS, but Kepp will remain in the line-up almost everyday.

"How?" you may ask.

Well, as I said, A-Gon will get half of the starts at SS, and Kepp will get the other half.  When A-Gon is starting at SS, Kepp can fill in at a variety of other positions.  If Edwin starts to slump, Kepp can get a few starts at 3B.  When Votto isn't playing well you can plug Kepp in at first.  Phillips can be given the occasional day off at 2B.  Keppinger can also play LF, so when the Reds face a tough lefty, Kepp can move out to left field.

This is where Keppinger's versatility helps him.  He deserves to be in the line-up every day, and his versatility will help keep him there.

Also, you can expect a trade very soon.  Hatteberg, Freel, a catcher, and maybe even Belise could all be on their way out.  Likewise, as soon as Griff hits 600, he should be traded to Seattle.

All of these things considered, there is (will be) plenty of room for Keppinger in the Reds line-up.


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April 30, 2008 12:07 pm
I think the general consensus is that we all love Keppinger.  He has been a shining beacon in an otherwise dark year thus far.  I feel like he's on base everytime I flip to the game.  He's exactly what this team needs out of every batter; someone who doesn't swing for the fences every at bat, but gets base hits and gets RBIs.  I hope the managment realizes this and doesn't make him lose his identity.  He needs to stay at SS because that's where he is comfortable.  If you move him around too much he will lose some focus I think.

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April 30, 2008 12:19 pm

Do whatever works to keep Keppinger playing the way he is, both in the field and at the plate. I agree with Nasty -- let him be where he is comfortable. He's earned it.

Can Gonzalez play somewhere else in the infield? He needs to play when/if he comes off the DL, but maybe it doesn't have to be at shortstop.


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April 30, 2008 1:04 pm
IMHO ... Gonzo's recovery is exponentially connected to Kepp's hitting. So long as Kepp is producing, there is no rush for Gonzo to come off the DL. So ... that may not be what Gonzo wants, but oh well.

I do agree that the Reds will do some dealing, but it will be for prospects. Belisle and/ or Fogg seem like trade meat, which would allow for Hatty or Freel to be part of the package.

A KGJ trade is a bit stiffer to pull off, even if he hits 600. It seems like Seattle is looking for excuses as to why they need him, which would make a deal back there a little more palatable for the fans. But bet that the Jock will hold out for a king's ransom.

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April 30, 2008 1:11 pm

I do want to point out that Keppinger is NOT the freat defender some of you think he is.

He is solid, and he makes the plays when the ball is hit to him, but his range is terrible.  I don't know how many softly hit balls have made it through the infield this season simply because he has no range.

That's why it important to play Gonzalez, but keep Keppinger in the lineup at other positions.  Give him half the starts at SS, and half elsewhere.  Our defense will be better because of it, and his bat stays in the line-up.


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April 30, 2008 1:14 pm
Jeff Keppinger may not have the range Alex Gonzalez has, but how man balls did Gonzo amazingly get to only to boot it? Too many for a "Gold Glove caliber SS". Fact is Keppinger has made what, 1 error on the season?

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April 30, 2008 2:41 pm
Errors for an infielder are interesting.
If he has no range, he gets to fewer balls that are now hits.
If he gets to them and boots them, there's no difference unless he's cutting off a gapper.
If his errors are as the result of bad throws, that's usually 2 bases.

Big league infielders will make the highlight-film play all the time, which is why they are in the big leagues. It's the routine plays that matter to me, making good throws as a cutoff man, getting a force out or just keeping the ball on the dirt. If Kepp can do that and still hit. .315, I'd say he's my shortstop.

If he plays third, he needs to just be a good arm with the ability to shorten up for a bunt.

At first, he just needs to catch the ball.


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April 30, 2008 2:45 pm

Jeff Keppinger may not have the range Alex Gonzalez has, but how man balls did Gonzo amazingly get to only to boot it? Too many for a "Gold Glove caliber SS". Fact is Keppinger has made what, 1 error on the season?


Gonzo had some issues last season.  His career speaks for itself.

Alex Gonzalez is twice the defender that Keppinger is.  When you have a man on second, and your short stop can't get to anything, it is pretty easy for the hitter to get a hit.  His lack of range will cost a lot of runs.

There is a reason that many managers sacrifice offense for defense at SS.  It is the most important defensive position on the field.


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April 30, 2008 3:13 pm

i have said it once.

i will say it again.

if kepp is not the everyday s.s.

i will start a riot!


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April 30, 2008 3:32 pm
Why does he have to be the SS?  Why can't he play everyday at other positions?

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April 30, 2008 3:48 pm

CK Fresh is right.

Gonzalez will be the SS until he proves he can't be- for a couple of reasons-

 1. He makes too much money to sit, has no minor league options, and is of such low value (for the money he makes and his age) he can't be traded for much.

2. He has a track record of being a superior defender, and this Reds team is not a good defensive team. I will also remind you his previous record indicates he isn't much of a hitter, and before you start siting last years improved bat stats, remember Gonzo had as many errors as homers- and he hit more homers than expected.

I do think Keppinger can get over 400 at bats if Gonzo does play well enough to play every day, and I'm not sure yet Gonzo can do that, but for the above reasons, he's going to getlots of opportunity.

Keppinger is an average armed, below average range infielder, with a solid glove (better than Gonzalez at making routine plays), below average speed, below average power with a VERY good hitting stroke for average. In other words, he's a 2 tool player. Uhmmm....Gonzalez can field, and throw. He is a below average power hitter, below average speed, and below average BA hitter....I think that is only 2 tools, too.. Kepp makes a LOT less money. That should be pretty good incentive for Gonzo to come back and play better than he did last year...or there will be more Krivsky contracts eaten, namely Gonzo's.

 


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April 30, 2008 5:37 pm

Kepp is no Larkin , but he is better than Gonzo, Gonzo will be cut .thier is no room for a s/s that can not and will not ever hit. i dont think Reds fans have anything to worry about, he will stay.

GO REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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April 30, 2008 7:54 pm
maybe Gonzo could be traded.  We won't get much since he's Griffeyed his tenure as a Red.  But, that would make room for Hairston, since we all know Dusty don't want him gone.  That would also keep another guy on the team who can play anywhere.  We certainly have plenty of guys who could be trade bait.  Let's hope we can get a good catcher out of it.

Keppinger - Go or Stay?