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Since:Sep 27, 2006

April 9, 2008 9:30 am

It looks like an almost certainty that OSU Hoops will lose a scholarship due to not meeting the required "Academic Progress Rate" score.  Essentially, Greg Oden piped the program by leaving early and not finishing up his classes last year.  If Koufos decides to jet too, the situation won't get any better.

While it's nice to get top level players, these "one and dones" could be doing long-term damage to the program.  I really hope the NBA pushes through the proposed change and requires players to be 2 years removed from high school to be draft eligible.


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Since:Mar 5, 2008

April 9, 2008 2:07 pm

I honestly think the high school players shouldn't have to go to college for one year because its America and they should be able to do whatever they want even if its not the best thing for the individual.  Its a free country!

And what the heck is the "Academic Progress Rate" score?  And why would they lose a scholarship because of it?  Is it some kind of violation or something?


Loss of Scholarship
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Reputation:99
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Since:Sep 27, 2006

April 10, 2008 8:45 am

Academic Progress Rate is a measuring stick implemented by the NCAA to track academic performance for athletic programs.  Basically, they have established a scoring system and if you don't meet certain scoring requirements you get penalized (i.e. loss of scholarships).

As for saying that this a free country, you are correct.  But that doesn't give kids the right to play in the NBA straight out of high school.  All employers, including professional sports leagues, have the right to establish minimum standards for candidates to qualify for employment.  Just like a factory can require a high school diploma, an insurance company can require a college degree, etc.

Too many people have trouble understanding what their "rights" are in this country...


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Since:Feb 6, 2008

April 10, 2008 4:10 pm

Link please?  to justify what you're posting. 


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Since:Jan 27, 2007

April 12, 2008 8:58 pm

Why does he need a link? What he is saying is common sense.

Doesn't a doctor have to go to med school and pass an exam to practice? Ditto for a lawyer. That is because that is the standards the AMA and ABA have set? Are you some how suggesting that is wrong.

The NBA is a business just like medicine or practicing law or working as an electrician. The employer has a right to set certain standards for the individual to meet before they are hired. If you don't think so I wish you luck going to that doctor of yours who has no med liscence . Good luck on that wiring job your unliscensed electrician does on your house.

Having said that I freely admit that it is open to debate whether the NBA requiring 1 or 2 years in college is legitimate or not. ( But the courts have backed up the NBA and the NFL on that issue). But their is no debate that every employer has a right to set standards for employment.


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Since:Dec 8, 2007

April 13, 2008 3:47 am
I agree ther should be some standards as in you complete your class. Why should OSU be penalized for a guy just filling a block enroute to the NBA? Now I also believe that if your good you should have the opportunity to play at the next level but it is just plain foul to penalize a school for those efforts etc. Unfortunately how many of these one and done ever come back to school rumor on the street is oden is coming back this summer? What was he doing this year since his surgery that he could not have finished up or enrolled in class if he truly wanted a college education? I think two years is a good measuring stick (gives the so called street ballers time to play with a team versus one on one... what am I saying ...that is the current NBA never mind that thought) but I also think somehow completion of classes has to be a part of the criteria to also declare for the draft which might be unlawful? The university which gives a FREE athletic scholarship should not be penalized and if these NBA contracts are so big the "declaree" should be made to pay back the money while they were in school...

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Reputation:91
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Since:Nov 29, 2007

April 13, 2008 4:53 pm

You make a good point, but what about the armed forces?

There are armed forces recruiting people in almost every high school. They want you to say you are going to join, even before you get out of high school. And just like basketball, there is a high school Army level, ROTC.

Why should these kids be denied by the NBA but accepted by the USMC? It's okay to learn how to kill and put your LIFE on the line, but it's not okay to let them learn the Triangle and the high pick n' roll?

And I know what you're thinking, its a bad investement, bad for business, blah blah blah. Just as many players out of college fail as do high school players. Sure Tim Duncan is great, went to college and is a great player. But for every Time Duncan, there's a Kevin Garne