OSU Vs. UMass (NIT Championship Game)

You're comparing winning the Super Bowl to just making the NCAA tourney.  One team wins the Super Bowl, 65 make the NCAA tourney.  Butler was a good player, I'm just saying he isn't one of the best OSU has ever had. 

Not winning, just getting there.  Otherwise, you'd have to put Dan Marino on the list.  (Besides, it was just an attention getter to a Colts fan, and you should know that.)

If Butler was a wrestler, or a fencer, or a ping-pong player for that matter, you might have a point.  But the flip side of your argument makes the point better than anything else I could ever say:

By your rationale, Todd Boeckman must be one of the best QBs ever to play for Ohio State.  Right?

I agree with you and realbigjon here.

Jamar wasn't a big name, superstar, primetime, sportscenter hogging, flashy player.

What he was....is....is someone who got the job done.  He did what the coaches asked of him for 4 years.  Please don't get his stats crossed in your mind.  Jamar can score if he chooses to. 

He averaged over 30 ppg in high school over a 4 year period.  If your memory is good, you will remember that he finished 2nd in Mr. Basketball voting his sophmore and junior year of high school (the winner was some kid named LeBron both years), and he won Mr. Basketball as a senior.  He averaged over 8 assists and 6 rebounds also during his high school career.

The accolades were there, BUT there were flashier players that always had the spotlight.  His Ohio State career was solid.  The coaches wanted him to be the one to get everyone else involved, which led to him getting his look when the rest of the team was on.  Scoonie Penn better than Jamar?  Puhlease.... let me guess, you graduated in 1999 and havent seen a game since?

He was double and triple teamed all year this season in conference games, and still shot over 40% and hit for 15 ppg.

Just this past weekend he was named the Portsmouth Invitational MVP.  Yeah, MVP of a very respected NBA Pre-Draft Camp, and will be now playing in the Orlando Pre-Draft Camp in June.

So I'll give my last prediction for this thread, "Jamar Butler will be playing in the NBA next year, you can count on it."

I guess "the uneducated one" because I'm overseas in the military and can't sit courtside every game is not so dumb after all...I guess that bold prediction is not happening about counting him playing in the NBA. Jamar "Did not" get drafted as you and others predicted and he has to settle on playing alongside Scoonie in the Italian league...maybe two years from now he may get invited to another NBA camp after he refines his game. Sorry...