| |
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
Stanford deserves to be a 2 or 3 seed... i mean please, let's be logical. Stanford doesn't even have a bad loss really unless you would call there loss to Sienna on nov.17 a bad one (Sienna is a projected tourney team, and Brook lopez was still on the bench for that game) they have only lost 6 total, and one of them was on a last second foul call @UCLA. The pac 10 is one of the most competitive leagues in the nation and Stanford finished 2nd in it. Give them a little credit they swept Washington State and 5 other pac 10 teams, They split games with USC, Oregon, and Arizona state and they were swept by UCLA. but let's look at the supposed projected 3 seeds. how about lousiville? a 3 seed? maybe they're 9-5 against to 50 teams and they have a good SOS but they also have 2 losses to teams ranked 101-200. and they have a pretty bad loss to Seton hall. Or what about Notre Dame? are they a 3 seed? maybe.. but they have a worse SOS ranking then Stanford and a worse RPI ranking. They have the same amount of losses and one of them is a loss to a pretty bad Georgia tech team. Stanford is 5-3 against top 50 teams Notre Dame is barely above .500 at 6-5. i could see these teams battling for a 3 seed.. but Xavier!? come on.. they're a good team but seriously they have losses to Saint Joe's, Miami ohio, and temple.. not to mention they have a common opponent with Stanford in Arizona state, Stanford split was ASU winning the first meeting by 15 and losing the 2nd meeting @ ASU by 12. Xavier was blownout by ASU losing by a horrific 22 points. I really can't say anything too bad about Wisconsin, except 2 of there 4 losses are to conf. foe Purdue which isn't really bad at all b/c purdue is a good team and with 2 wins over Indiana and a win against Michigan state Wisconsin is deserving of at least a 3 seed but i think Stanford should be in the mix instead of Notre Dame, Lousiville, or especially Xavier.
|
|
|
Reputation:90
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 26, 2008
|
|
I love how everyone tries to compare Xavier to Stanford through playing ASU. Yes X was blown out, but X came off the emotional crosstown shootout win and they had to travel to the western time zone which would throw any teams' game off. X is 7-1 against the top 50. That sounds a whole heck of a lot better than Stanford's measely 5-3. X's strength of scedule is 23 and they are currently 9th in rpi. Not to mention Stanford lost two games in a row last week. If this does not convince you of why X is more deserving of a higher seed than Standford, then you are hopeless
|
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
oh man, stanford lost to 2 tourney teams in a row in close games.. they got robbed at UCLA then they lost to USC in OT... wow, that's pretty bad.. oh who did xavier lose to last week, right st. joes. not to mention the other losses i already mentioned. yeah, they're (6-1) against top 50 teams but they're 5-4 against 51-100... i'm not bashing the A-10 b/c it's a good conf. but the pac 10 is better and Stanford should get a higher seed than xavier b/c of the common opponent in Arizona State. and maybe it's not xavier that should lose the 3 seed but one of the 3 teams i mentioned should be a 4 seed and stanford should be a 3.
|
|
|
Reputation:4
Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 12, 2008
|
|
Stanfor does not have a bad loss they have a TERRIBLE loss. They lost to SIenna. A tema from a weak conference that is not supposed to beat even the bottom dwellers of any power conference.
The wins that Stanford has that prop up their RPI are all PAC10 victories. THe presupposition is that this is a strong year for the PAC 10 Most of that seems to be based upon UCLA who wins because they only play at home and Arizona playing the toughest schedule in the country. Except Arizona lost all over the place.
Stanford is good for one torurey win and a second round loss no matter what the seed.
|
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
Stanford will make it to the sweet 16 or possibly the elite 8... when they lost to sienna they didn't have brook lopez (their star player) They'll probably make it to the championship game of the pac 10 tourney. do you listen to yourself one and done in the dance? except for the part where they've spent the most of the season in the top ten and finished second in the pac 10... They're a good team, very well rounded... they have two 7 foot starters in the lopez twins. Anthony Goods is one of the better gaurds in the Pac 10. They can be a scary team. besides the other "3 seeds" have worse losses then sienna (MAAC regular season and MAAC tourney champs 23-10) I would rather lose to Sienna than seton hall, temple, or St. joes
|
|
|
Reputation:4
Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 12, 2008
|
|
Let me rieterate. One win and out of the tourney and that's only because they'll probably ot get a hard first round opponent.
Your terrific "one of the better Pac-10" point guards mustered 6 points aginst Siena. And Mr. Lopez at center with his large 7 foot frame pounded the Saints for 8 points. Sienna din't eek out the winf they won going away by a dozen and a couple of weeks later that same Sienna team ......lost by alomost 50 (yepper 50) to Memphis. C'mon take off your PAC 10 blinders.
Temple and St. Joes are hardcore physical inner city Philly colleges with great track records and Sienna is for kids who aren't playing there.
Your reply is sorta letting your zealous fandom show and its really not helping your argument.
|
|
|
Reputation:88
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 2, 2006
|
|
but i think Stanford should be in the mix instead of Notre Dame, Lousiville, or especially Xavier.
This is funny. Why are you better than Louisville? You have one less loss -- yet you have lost 2 games by more than Louisville's worst loss. You also want to then blame it on missing your big guy for the game. Well, trying missing BOTH your big guys for 9 and 10 games. Let's compare resumes again then. Yeah, Louisville was horrible, they lost a game by 2 to a team in the top 25 now, they lost another to by 8 to a team in the top 25. They lost to another team by 5, which was in the top 25 until their own injuries knocked players out later in the season. They lost another road game by 2 to a top 15 team. They lost the title game by 3 to a team that was top 10 all year practically till we knocked them off in the split game. So 4 losses without our 2 guys -- and you want to complain about your blow out to a mid major team.
Meanwhile UL has a SOS of 6 compared to yours of 77, even in the mighty PAC that gets tons of credit. Says how bad your OOC must be. Your road win record is not great.
But yeah, you are definitely MUCH more deserving to be a 3 seed -- the mighty PAC is supposed to earn you kudos for playing in it. Whatever---
|
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
yeah it doesn't really matter.. b/c when the tourney starts and the pac 10 dominates... as usual and then you big east bitches can go crying to your moms b/c you got spanked and you were overrated the whole season... it's ok you'll get over it... how many wins could a high school bball club pick up playing the bottom half of the big east.. they'd probably go 6-2.. by the way i'm not even a stanford fan.. you guys are attacking this standpoint as a fan of the teams that shouldn't be ahead of stanford. i'm just looking at the numbers.
|
|
|
Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 7, 2008
|
|
yeah, stanford is pretty good... and the pac 10 will produce in the tourney this year. oh yeah... did lousiville lose today? lol. they did. go pac 10
|
|
|
Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 7, 2008
|
|
yeah, stanford is pretty good... and the pac 10 will produce in the tourney this year. oh yeah... did lousiville lose today? lol. they did. go pac 10
|
|
|
Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 13, 2008
|
|
pac10 kicks ass, there's no denying it. The big east can suck nuts as far as im concerned.
|
|
|
Reputation:88
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 2, 2006
|
|
yeah it doesn't really matter.. b/c when the tourney starts and the pac 10 dominates... as usual and then you big east bitches can go crying to your moms b/c you got spanked and you were overrated the whole season... it's ok you'll get over it... how many wins could a high school bball club pick up playing the bottom half of the big east.. they'd probably go 6-2.. by the way i'm not even a stanford fan.. you guys are attacking this standpoint as a fan of the teams that shouldn't be ahead of stanford. i'm just looking at the numbers.
Yeah, seems the only posters I ticked off here are PAC fans. Why is not possible to unbiased just because someone is in your conference? I do it all the time for teams in mine, including my own team. Records don't lie -- numbers, stats, scores don't lie. Everything in my post was accurate and fact. Stanford might be good but they are no where near a great team or better than probably a dozen other teams.
And yes UL lost tonight -- to a team who ranked almost all year before injuries and still managed to pull together their season and are currently sitting with a RPI of 26. Doesn't sound like a bad loss to me in OT. I seem to have noticed that Stanford's last lost was by 13 in regulation to a team with an RPI of 33. Does that still mean they are somehow better -- still with no proof? Alrighty then. Our RPI is better, our SOS is better, our opponents' RPIs is better. Like it or not doesn't matter. And until we ever play again, all we have for head - to - head with these great players is that beat Stanford pretty badly last year. So until there is a rematch - sorry you have NOTHING to show they are better.
|
|
|
Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 10, 2007
|
|
Lousiville has 2 bad defeats. Cin. and Seton Hall both with 100+ RPIS. And you lost to Cin. at home. All of the teams who have beaten Stanford are going to the tournament. Siena, UCLA x2, ASU and Oregon are probably the last 4 in or last 4 out. Keep thinking of last year, you probably haven't even watch 1 stanford game this year. If you keep basing Stanford on the game last year again Lousiville, then you are fooled. And saying Stanford gonna lose in the 1st week, then i can say the same for lousiville. Didn't they lose their next game against A&M last year? Not like they went to 2nd week.
|
|
|
Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 10, 2007
|
|
Yeah you right numbers don't lie...
stanford 25-6 , Lousiville 24-8.
hmm i think we got the better record.
You rpi is 13 and ares are 15. But your team doesn't play any more games cuz they lost yesterday, while stanford can improve their rpi with a win against WSU. Stanford ranks in the top 10 in every defensive catogery in the nation.
Come on give me Lousiville numbers...
We got no lost against any bad teams while you guys got 2.
|
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
hey, thanks for the back up ruffry... i am unbiased by the way... i'm a WSU fan, not a Stanford fan, but i know a good team when i see one, and Stanford is def. a very good team. Elite 8 bound
|
|
|
Reputation:87
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 4, 2007
|
|
by the way Xavier lost in the A-10 tourney.... stanford is lookin like a better 3 seed
|
|
