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How dumb are the Democrats?


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How dumb are the Democrats?
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 8, 2008

April 15, 2008 6:20 pm
 Dan, who is asking you to  give them something? People like myself ,who have 15 -30 years invested working in factories have earned what we have as well. I am one of the lucky ones who still makes 55-60k a year and have healthcare for the time being ,I'm not crying  about my own situation. I just happen to care about the people who have taken pay cuts and have lost their jobs.Yeah us bleeding hearts, actually have hearts .The reason corporations need to be responsible for healthcare for their employees is because of  the bad backs, bad knees, bad lungs and many other ailments and lifelong injuries that employees incur from 30+ years of physical labor. However i  don't think a corporation should be responsible for providing healthcare for the employees family , one employee may have 6 kids and a spouse,this means the corporation is providing 8 healthcare plans for 1 actual employee. But if you can't acknowledge that Corporations are dismantling the middlleclass by sending jobs to China where people work for $4 a week ,and if you think this is OK ,then there is something wrong with you. Every Republican I know follows suit in the same ideals. " I got mine ! "

How dumb are the Democrats?
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Reputation:92
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Since:Feb 8, 2008

April 15, 2008 6:44 pm
Curtisteff, the good news is, Americans are starting to see what Chinese made products are all about, tainted dog food ,lead paint in toys , mercury and toxic waste in vegatables,as well as poor overall product quality. The bad news is, most Americans don't take the time to even look to see where a product is made.

How dumb are the Democrats?
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 16, 2006

April 15, 2008 9:26 pm
Why does a CEO deserve to make as much money as he can but a union employee doesn't? Not only that, they don't deserve health care, retirement, safety, and a clean environment? Not only that, their kids don't deserve that either? Just because their dad is a union employee and wasn't born rich? Oh, wait I know the answer, because they can. What a double standard.

I never said that Union workers didn't deserve to make as much money as they can or that they didn't deserve health care, retirements, safety, and a clean environment.  We are all in this together.  Everyone deserves to make what the market will bear for their skills and work.  When we demand more than fair market for our services, and form unions to prevent others from performing the work at fair market value, then corporations move the jobs.  It’s not only unions driving jobs away either; it’s a combination of things including worker salaries, taxes, regulations, etc.  Not all unions are bad nor are regulations all bad.  Both have legitimate reasons to exist and are necessary. 

Well run unions keep in mind that what's in the companies best interest is also in the union workers best interest.  When corporate management is making obscene salaries and the companies aren't profitable then the unions should step in and demand new management and/or reduced compensation packages for the management.  Unions should also help establish what precautions are needed to ensure worker safety.   When negotiating salaries and benefits, the unions must be aware of the company’s profitability, total cost of doing business, and the relative cost of competitors located in other companies.  If your company has to charge $5 each for your product, and a competitor can sell the same product for $4 by making it in China, the jobs will evaporate.  It doesn’t matter whether the cost drivers are the “un-skilled labor”, management compensations, excessive regulations, excessive taxes, etc… the jobs are still lost.

As far as taxes, I complain about all taxes.  I’d love to see income taxes on companies eliminated.  I’d also love to see personal taxes capped at 1/3 of income.  Our government needs to set priorities and spend our money more wisely.  Both Republicans and Democrats are guilty of funding pork projects and wasting our money. 

I wasn’t aware that corporate America had a grudge against you and people like you.  I had no idea that corporate America was putting up road blocks to stop you.  I’m not sure how corporate America knows who you and people like you are or why they would want to road block you.  In the absence of some rationale reasons or proof that the road blocks exist I’ll remain skeptical.


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Since:Sep 16, 2006

April 15, 2008 9:42 pm

UK Blue, sorry if i misinterpreted your earlier comments.  You said "Most  Republicans  don't care about anyone but themselves, which is why it's no skin off their back if  4000  or 10,000  or 30,000  americans die  in a war that shouldn't have been started,  or  that 55 million  people  don't have health care,  or that the middle class  is being dismantled , or the 3 trillion dollar deficit created over bushies admin. Just as long as they get their frickin tax cuts that's all they care about." 

I read that to mean you were asking for the government to take more money from us to pay for health care, etc... 


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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 28, 2008

April 15, 2008 10:08 pm
Dan wrote: "If your company has to charge $5 each for your product, and a competitor can sell the same product for $4 by making it in China, the jobs will evaporate. It doesn’t matter whether the cost drivers are the “un-skilled labor”, management compensations, excessive regulations, excessive taxes, etc… the jobs are still lost."

$4.00 Dan? Really try $0.40. This is more in line with the trade deals that have forced jobs out. We had a big newspaper strike in our town (Toledo) and the newspaper continued to talk about how our workers need to be more like China. "Things are great in China." This Chinese person would say. "Lots of jobs happening." So we are supposed to become like China. I'm not saying that you are saying this, but certainly there is a not so ambiguous message sent by the right in this country that the worker is at fault for their jobs leaving. Again, I'm not saying unions haven't gone a little too far, but it really is incomparable to the imbalance in trade that is not the fault of unions in the least. I think that many of the higher-ups do have the interest of the country in mind... I would like to dream that there are a few anyway. However, I know that this is an issue that was started in the Clinton administration, but exploited in this one. The free market left uncontrolled... well... we had that before in this country. That is why there is oversight.

In regard to taxes. Seems like many republicans want this country to run for free. I understand lower taxes increase business potential, but the potholes don't get filled with shattered dreams of a nation that left people behind.

If money is waisted, I want it waisted on my countrymen. I am my brothers keeper. I don't want to leave any behind.

I believe I was taught that at one time in my life.


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Since:Apr 9, 2007

April 16, 2008 7:39 am
Hillary is on the verge of a mighty defeat.

How dumb are the Democrats?
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Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 9, 2007

April 16, 2008 8:03 am
Barack is smart enough to beat the Republicans.

How dumb are the Democrats?
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Reputation:71
Level:Pro
Since:Sep 22, 2007

April 16, 2008 10:00 am
IF YOU CAN'T SEE FOR YOURSELF, THEN ITS A WASTE OF TIME EXPLAINING IT TO YOU, HELL YOUR A BIGGER CLOWN THAN HE IS.

How dumb are the Democrats?
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 24, 2007

April 16, 2008 10:12 am
We can't compete with China.  Ho